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this hope radio for the masses Atlanta

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before July 8 1947 Ronnie Airport has

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announced that a flying death - found

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the game-changer radio network

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I need your help to do the

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like with Jimmy Josh on the game change

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the spoke radio

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155 days into the new year

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only 211 days left

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we are live from a bunker

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a bunker that is somewhere in the middle

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that's right beautiful downtown Burbank

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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the game-changer network and kgr aids of

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planets I'm yours Jimmy Church what is

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crackin everybody how you doing alright

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slight mood change not only around here

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but across the country can you feel it

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that's right it's because tonight's very

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special guest grant Cameron yeah mad and

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Cameron is here

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ah man time to get our feet back on the

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ground can grant Cameron is joining us

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and we are gonna cover all of his latest

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research tonight and then we will jump

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into all the UFO you ap et acronyms and

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the news of those acronyms around the

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world and tomorrow night is another

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fader night with open lines all night

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long now we've had a lot of open lines

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this week looking forward to that I've

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taken a lot of phone call if we go back

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we go back to last like Thursday night

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to today today's Wednesday oh man I have

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taken hundreds of phone calls hundreds

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of phone calls feel like the operator in

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a new movie at Amazon man okay all right

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all right yeah grant Cameron is here so

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get ready for that he's gonna join us at

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the bottom of the hour let's get some

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things out of the way this is fade to

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black you can follow me on Twitter at

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radio follow me right there on twitter

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questions I just looked up UFO tweets

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trying to trying to light the fires

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right there with a picture of Bambi meow

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with a picture of carnations you guys

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it's it's true though isn't it it's

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really true it doesn't take anything

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of Jeannie a gif and even that will

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incite emotions today yeah okay all

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right we're email is a Jimmy at Jimmy

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Church radio calm okay any questions or

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comments do post them to hashtag f2b q

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for you and you can post them there you

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you're over you know we broadcast all

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over the place if you're over on YouTube

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hello everybody if you've got a question

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caps one of our moderators will see it

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everybody to get engaged tonight and of

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Spreaker we have one over at k gr a the

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planet and of course our sandbox and you

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can get everything going and I try to

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stay on top of it it's gonna be a busy

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night on the show and I always look

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forward to having Grant with us so stay

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tuned he will be with us at the bottom

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of the hour right now I do want you to

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right breaking news breaking news you

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haven't heard I don't know where you

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have been today but all four former

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officers involved in George Floyd's

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murder have now been formally charged

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during a live press conference today by

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Minnesota AG keith ellison derrick

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Chauvin who pressed his knee into Floyds

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third-degree murder and second-degree

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manslaughter the new second-degree

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says that he killed Floyd without intent

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the third degree

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abetting second-degree manslaughter

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abetting second-degree murder are

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punishable by up to 40 years in prison

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injustice in tweeting about rioters

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news it's vetted information I go

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through it with one source to source

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three source BAM news right okay now

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this next news story is something you

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knew nothing about NASA is reporting now

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and I'm giving this to you half of it is

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the fact that's right the news has

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NASA is reporting that at least five

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asteroids one two three four five five

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asteroids are flying towards Earth this

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four four four of the near-earth objects

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that's right and you didn't know about

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it because there are other news grabbing

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the headlines the 108 foot-wide 2020 kk7

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coasted bias at 34,000 miles an hour

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measuring 115 feet wide cruised by at

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hour brought up the rear it was the last

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rock to pass us by

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yesterday and they all did it together

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it's not over though now this is the

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part of the breaking news that you need

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to be aware of because in a couple of

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days an asteroid potentially taller the

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New York's Empire State Building and the

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London Eye combined known as 2002 N and

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4 it's gonna pass by the earth this

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buried with other stuff now I want to

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let you know the Starworks UFOs an

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artificial intelligence conference in

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Laughlin Nevada is going down November

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at the Aquarius Hotel and Casino I'm

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gonna be there speaking I'm gonna be

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speaking on a I get ready for that

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Rita's gonna be there or fade to black

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Cruz gonna be there Grant Cameron our

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guest tonight is gonna be there Paul

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hynek's gonna be there James Fox alan

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stivell Minh City Cole Bergen another

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dozen great speakers so I want you to go

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to Starworks usa.com for tickets and

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downtown Los Angeles okay I want you to

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go to disclosure fest dot org so you can

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check out all of the great speakers the

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fest dot org let's get this show

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cracking happy birthday - today my man

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Peter tatran today 50 Slayers Kerry King

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today 36 Mott the hoople's Ian Hunter I

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had to double check this today that I

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went and watched a video for all the

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young dudes Ian Hunter 81 years old

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Stereophonics frontman Kelly Jones today

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is 46 and Rita's favorite Suzi Quatro

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today 70 years old and leading up the

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pack today one of my favorite singers in

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the world

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Doro Pesch I she's just doro doro the

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queen of metal

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Doro Pesch today 56 years old member her

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band warlock he have at Doro Pesch 56

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years old on this day in history 1956

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OTD rock and roll is banned in Santa

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Cruz California

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the authorities announced a total ban on

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rock and roll at public gatherings

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calling the music and I quote

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detrimental to both the health and

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morals of our youth and community end

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quote

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they banned them both the rock and the

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Philadelphia Cream Cheese was invented

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in New York that's right

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it has never been produced in

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Philadelphia its name was an 1880s

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marketing strategy because at the time

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New York didn't make good cheese and

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Philadelphia was known for high quality

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dairy there you go

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tonight very special guest grant Cameron

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joins us we're gonna be covering all of

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his latest research he's an amazing

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amazing amazing researcher and we're

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gonna be covering all of the UFO UAP et

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news from around the world tomorrow

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night is another Fator night with open

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lines all night long let me hit this

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Nancy where'd you get this picture is

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that Italian food I'm trying to remember

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is that Italian food Wow

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trying to remember when that was

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couldn't have been that long I got a

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kind of thing that Van Halen t-shirt I'm

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wearing and the bracelet so that's what

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it said about a year ago Italian food

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here at the house I don't remember that

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going down was it good it looks good all

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right as I reported earlier in the

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breaking news all four X MPD officers

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involved in the murder of George Floyd

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have been charged and reports are now

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that they are all in custody now today

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was the first full day of normal

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television here in Los Angeles that's

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right instead of the live 24-hour news

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that took over every local news channels

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here in our city that was going on for

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the last week and I can only speak for

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myself but I feel a true sense of relief

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the protests will go on as they should

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but the looting has all but stopped and

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the negative side of everything has

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started to chill out oh yeah I say these

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things to you tonight because well

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because we are all Americans and we're

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all affected by these events of

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lawlessness that have occupied the media

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and the tense feelings that we all have

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when watching things just spin out of

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control hopefully we have move past the

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stupid stuff and we can now start to

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figure out a way forward the path we

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choose will be the right one one that

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involves all of us from individuals to

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the media artists politicians the

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community law enforcement every sector

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of our great nation our community this

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community probably understands all of

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this better than just about any group

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that you can think of you see we have

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wanted nothing but change disclosure and

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we are used to the fight all we do

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around here is question the system the

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man and this community is made up of

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every type of person that is possible

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everybody is here everybody is welcome

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it doesn't matter what do you think

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about politics that is left on the table

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religion on the table music food your

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background none of that matters here

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none of it all we want here is to unite

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to be heard and to fight the good fight

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that is what we do and who we are and

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it's because of this

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our welcoming nature our open-mindedness

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the way that we converse and talk and

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share ideas and our pursuit of secrets

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and knowledge and constantly chasing the

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man for answers it's because of that

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that we are also greatly moved by the

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events over the last week leaving aside

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of course the traumatic situation that

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we've all been in for the last three or

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four months but now that the now that

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these four guys these four murders

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responsible for George Floyd now that

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they are in custody their mugshots are

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there for all of us to see right and

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some of the pressure now has been

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relieved and we can now start to move

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forward to real change and I think

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that's important we now have a lot of

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work in front of us nothing has gone

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away because we still have to rebuild an

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entire world's economy we still have to

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get our kids back in school we still

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have mortgage and rent and bills and a

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job to think about we have to deal with

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the trials of these XM PD officers we

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also have and I don't know if you guys

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know this we have a presidential

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election coming up and of course with

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all of that we have our continuing

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efforts to answer the questions about an

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ET presence here on earth and that quest

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for knowledge so tonight we have grant

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Cameron with us one of the great minds

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in our community and he joins us right

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in the middle of everything that we are

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all dealing with and although we'll be

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talking about all of the great subjects

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that he's constantly researching he's

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also just like you it's going to be

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interesting to get his take on the sea

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of change that this planet is currently

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dealing with one of the funnest things

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that I can do is well is when I get to

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sit down with my favorite researchers

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you know and

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authors and just talk you know at lunch

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maybe or over a drink and just chat

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about anything but UFOs and Bigfoot when

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this happens you get their best stuff

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because you know they're used to talking

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about the same old stuff UFOs and

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abductions but once you get them started

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on life once you do that the

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conversation lasts for hours right now

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we always save the UFO stuff we save

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that stuff for the show it's the

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opposite with Grant correct

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my man grant is UFOs 24/7 seriously

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ain't grant how you doing haven't seen

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any new while Jimmy man have you heard

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about the latest case whoa grant how's

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the family men this latest case man we

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got a grant so tonight let's see if I

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can get the other side of mr. grant

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Cameron and and don't worry okay I know

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what you're thinking I don't know we're

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gonna get to the good stuff

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because it's grant Cameron seriously I'm

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yours Jimmy Church as you can see there

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has been a general mood change around

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here around the country the pressure

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relief valve has been popped a little

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bit we can all relax

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I've got normal TV back on which I never

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watch anyway but if I choose to it's

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just normal stuff right and hopefully

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you are seeing the same and feeling the

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same things in your part of the world

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with that I'm gonna get out of here and

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take a break but to come back with our

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guest tonight

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mr. grant camera and this is fade to

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geneticists agreed fade to black

547
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is not your father's radio show on the

548
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game changer of radio network and kgr a

549
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the planets hi this is Rob Reiner from

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Apple and you're listening to Jimmy's

551
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all right welcome back fade to black I

552
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am your host in the church

553
00:33:42,009 --> 00:33:39,860
tonight's grant Cameron joins us i want

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to remind everybody tomorrow night Fator

555
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:44,240
night open lines all night long it's

556
00:33:47,259 --> 00:33:45,440
going to be a great show tomorrow night

557
00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:47,269
done a lot of open lines this week with

558
00:33:51,789 --> 00:33:50,539
all of you and it's gonna be great to

559
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:51,799
sit down and just have a conversation

560
00:33:56,289 --> 00:33:54,529
tonight feel a little bit more normal

561
00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:56,299
tomorrow night but tonight it's grant

562
00:34:02,499 --> 00:33:59,450
and we are going to be covering all of

563
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,509
the latest research that grant finds

564
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:04,399
himself in and we're gonna cover all of

565
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:07,039
the UFO ET you ap headlines from around

566
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the world in another open and

567
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:11,720
comprehensive conversation that way

568
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:14,210
always do with Grant he has been a UFO

569
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:17,599
researcher since 1975 and was recognized

570
00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:19,250
as both the leads conference

571
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:21,260
international researcher of the year and

572
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:24,530
the UFO Congress researcher of the year

573
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:27,050
he's a world-renowned expert on UFOs

574
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:29,119
conspiracies government cover-ups and

575
00:34:33,579 --> 00:34:31,310
has spent decades watching and

576
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:33,589
chronicling developments around the

577
00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:36,409
extra-terrestrial contact he is the

578
00:34:41,139 --> 00:34:38,270
author of Charlie red star and his

579
00:34:43,569 --> 00:34:41,149
website of course is beyond presidential

580
00:34:45,010 --> 00:34:43,579
UFO calm the links are over a 2 meter

581
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radio calm and I would like to welcome

582
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back to fade to black

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grant Cameron grant how are you tonight

584
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:53,720
man fantastic Giggy thanks Evan

585
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yeah you know what what's great the

586
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audience can't see us but tonight you

587
00:35:02,380 --> 00:35:00,920
and I we we I don't know how many shows

588
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:02,390
and interviews and things we've done

589
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:04,310
over the years this is the first time

590
00:35:10,589 --> 00:35:06,410
we've done it face to face right they

591
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can't tonight tonight grant and I are

592
00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:14,869
watching each other on on video but

593
00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:17,000
welcome back to the program and it has

594
00:35:26,890 --> 00:35:21,260
been grant before we get to the UFO

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00:35:28,930 --> 00:35:26,900
subject no you know we would not really

596
00:35:31,089 --> 00:35:28,940
be too responsible if we ignore the

597
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:31,099
elephant in the room and that is the sea

598
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:33,290
of change that is going around the world

599
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right now and across the United States

600
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and you're just north of this up there

601
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in Canada which means you're involved by

602
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:43,320
proxy right so

603
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and how're you guys doing up there and

604
00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:49,470
and what's the mood like it's not quite

605
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:52,230
as as tense as it does is down in the

606
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United States we have we had the same

607
00:35:59,240 --> 00:35:57,330
sort of unemployment thing we don't have

608
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the of course the rioting or anything

609
00:36:02,420 --> 00:36:01,380
like that that's your belief in

610
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:02,430
separation

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you know I'm different than you and you

612
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:08,930
have you have the problem with the

613
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,370
african-american we have we had just

614
00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:13,440
before coab ed we had the problem with

615
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:15,750
aboriginals which is our sort of belief

616
00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:18,330
in separation up here where we had they

617
00:36:22,850 --> 00:36:21,120
were blockading stuff and over pipelines

618
00:36:24,290 --> 00:36:22,860
and stuff like that so you always get

619
00:36:27,590 --> 00:36:24,300
that kind of stuff but we sort of looked

620
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,600
down at the United States and say well

621
00:36:30,590 --> 00:36:29,520
we're much better off than what's going

622
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,600
on there even though there's still lots

623
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:32,400
of unemployed people here but you know

624
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:35,280
restaurants have gone back to to serving

625
00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:36,480
in the last couple of days people are

626
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:38,070
allowed in hospitals I don't think we

627
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,690
have a single person in a hospital here

628
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:42,000
right now so we've basically got no

629
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:44,730
cases we've got the 5g but we've got no

630
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:47,730
covet cases dad that's the 3d version

631
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:50,400
the way I look at it I I'm going to do a

632
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:53,010
panel coming out because I've moved off

633
00:36:56,930 --> 00:36:54,810
sort of the UFO thing and I've gotten

634
00:37:01,070 --> 00:36:56,940
into the sort of the what's reality type

635
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:01,080
thing I'm doing a panel shortly where

636
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:04,410
I'm going to have six six people on who

637
00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:07,110
had the vision they got have just done a

638
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:08,700
book called contact modalities people

639
00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:10,740
who sort of get into the field and pick

640
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,420
up information I've got six Dib from

641
00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:14,160
different ones once from a float tank

642
00:37:17,870 --> 00:37:16,590
out of LA mm-hmm ones a lot of them are

643
00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:17,880
near-death experience people and

644
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:19,830
basically they get the vision that

645
00:37:22,670 --> 00:37:21,090
everything is absolutely perfect

646
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:22,680
everything is exactly the way it's

647
00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:25,170
supposed to be and it's a really really

648
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,180
you go like come on this is like crazy

649
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:29,280
stuff and yet these people will come

650
00:37:32,930 --> 00:37:30,570
back from these near-death experiences

651
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:32,940
and say this is the vision this is the

652
00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:35,430
dream that's the reality and this very

653
00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:38,190
bizarre thing that in the end it's like

654
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:40,440
it's a reincarnation world so whatever

655
00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:41,970
it is you're being dealt a bunch of

656
00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:45,240
cards play the cards quit whining you

657
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:46,440
can always find someone who's worse off

658
00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:47,730
than you some of those better off than

659
00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:49,980
you and that's sort of what I spend a

660
00:37:54,130 --> 00:37:52,680
lot of my time doing I'm actually now

661
00:37:56,490 --> 00:37:54,140
working on a book called

662
00:37:58,350 --> 00:37:56,500
extraterrestrial or maybe not

663
00:38:01,740 --> 00:37:58,360
and it looks into this whole aspect of

664
00:38:04,530 --> 00:38:01,750
the crossovers between UFOs and weird

665
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:04,540
things like the spirit world where I'll

666
00:38:06,830 --> 00:38:05,890
give you I'll give you two examples just

667
00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:06,840
just blew me away

668
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:10,150
where a lot of people who we consider to

669
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:13,390
be abductees will say I I was I was

670
00:38:16,770 --> 00:38:14,890
allowed to go into the spirit world and

671
00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:16,780
I'm in the spirit world there's a Mormon

672
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:18,700
friend of mine Ron Johnson out of Utah

673
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:20,410
says I'm there and I'm with my mother

674
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:22,210
three times I'm in the spirit world and

675
00:38:26,610 --> 00:38:23,710
she's showing me around she shows me

676
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:26,620
this this building and it's a small

677
00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:28,690
little tiny building looks like a temple

678
00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:31,660
we go inside the temple and he said it

679
00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:33,670
was ten times the size inside as it was

680
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:35,590
outside and as soon as he said that I

681
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:37,810
went oh Chris muscle said the same thing

682
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:39,790
right when Wetzel told me he flew the

683
00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:41,710
flying saucer I said Chris stop I want

684
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:42,820
you to tell me about the flying saucer

685
00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:44,320
tell me how do you fly a flying saucer

686
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,360
and because I knew I knew I knew the

687
00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:48,160
I've had 50 people that have told me how

688
00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:50,230
to do it but he so he told me in the

689
00:38:54,750 --> 00:38:51,460
same thing he said it's ten times the

690
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:54,760
size inside his outside and Terry

691
00:38:57,870 --> 00:38:56,260
Lovelace has said the same thing a bunch

692
00:39:00,360 --> 00:38:57,880
of UFO experiences said the same thing

693
00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:00,370
so I'm saying well I'm having UFO

694
00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:02,020
abduction are they in the spirit world

695
00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:04,030
and the other thing he talked about in

696
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:06,070
in his experience was he says my mother

697
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:07,690
takes me in this in this building and

698
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:09,760
there's a big huge table she takes me

699
00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:11,410
the far end of the room and there's this

700
00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:12,670
big huge table there and there's these

701
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:14,830
crystals in the table and that crystals

702
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:16,210
are coming out of the table and if you

703
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:17,680
look at the crystal everybody's got

704
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:19,510
their own crystal so Jimmy you when you

705
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:20,800
die you have this crystal and you look

706
00:39:23,790 --> 00:39:22,330
in the crystal and you can see all your

707
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:23,800
past lives you can see your lives and

708
00:39:27,390 --> 00:39:25,930
you plan your future lives and as soon

709
00:39:29,330 --> 00:39:27,400
as she said that then you look at the

710
00:39:32,730 --> 00:39:29,340
crystal at a certain angle I'm thinking

711
00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:32,740
that's UFO cover-up live 1988 right

712
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:35,260
Richard Doty says the most amazing thing

713
00:39:39,090 --> 00:39:37,510
he saw was the aliens had this crystal

714
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:39,100
and you took the crystal and you looked

715
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:40,810
at it at a certain angle and you could

716
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:43,390
see the history of the world and so you

717
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:44,770
see these parallels that are crossing

718
00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:46,450
over and that's when I did this contact

719
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:48,550
modality book and so I'm coming to this

720
00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:50,170
sort of the conclusion that the world

721
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:52,990
that the world of UFOs the world as we

722
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:55,210
know it is a lot less physical and

723
00:39:59,250 --> 00:39:56,770
people think it is it's a lot more

724
00:40:02,550 --> 00:39:59,260
spiritual and people think it is it's

725
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:02,560
and it's like a probably hundred

726
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:04,450
thousand million times more complex when

727
00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:06,370
I look at the UFO phenomena and I start

728
00:40:09,989 --> 00:40:09,100
looking at people their actual stories

729
00:40:11,969 --> 00:40:09,999
and this

730
00:40:14,789 --> 00:40:11,979
kind of stuff I start to realize like

731
00:40:16,889 --> 00:40:14,799
it's it's not going to be there maybe an

732
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:16,899
ET component to it but it's gonna be

733
00:40:22,619 --> 00:40:19,359
much more complex than e t--'s I've seen

734
00:40:24,929 --> 00:40:22,629
the cover from the book is it out it was

735
00:40:26,999 --> 00:40:24,939
just out yesterday and today I just put

736
00:40:30,179 --> 00:40:27,009
a couple minutes ago I just put the

737
00:40:31,529 --> 00:40:30,189
first 50 pages of the book on it because

738
00:40:33,899 --> 00:40:31,539
it's a very very long book

739
00:40:35,459 --> 00:40:33,909
I mean ecomony went ironing and iam ship

740
00:40:37,169 --> 00:40:35,469
and alien-abduction and goes through all

741
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:37,179
the different modalities where people

742
00:40:41,069 --> 00:40:39,129
claim that they were in a different

743
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,079
world they were picking up material or

744
00:40:45,509 --> 00:40:43,359
whatever so I've put up 50 pages and

745
00:40:47,189 --> 00:40:45,519
that basically explains the beginning

746
00:40:50,459 --> 00:40:47,199
what what I think is actually going on

747
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:50,469
how does this happen and what the basic

748
00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:53,169
concept is is you have a right brain

749
00:40:57,059 --> 00:40:55,629
left brain and your left brain ego keeps

750
00:40:59,099 --> 00:40:57,069
you in the physical world and if you can

751
00:41:00,959 --> 00:40:59,109
stop the chitter chatter in your head

752
00:41:03,779 --> 00:41:00,969
right whether through meditation through

753
00:41:06,209 --> 00:41:03,789
a head injury through an alien abduction

754
00:41:07,919 --> 00:41:06,219
or whatever you can suddenly be in this

755
00:41:10,109 --> 00:41:07,929
field and you can pick up material for

756
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:10,119
example 40% of all the free survey and

757
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:13,359
you've interviewed Rey Hernandez 40% of

758
00:41:17,369 --> 00:41:16,329
all people that that claim they have had

759
00:41:19,379 --> 00:41:17,379
the UFO experience that have been

760
00:41:20,279 --> 00:41:19,389
abducted or have the experience say they

761
00:41:21,479 --> 00:41:20,289
knew they answered everything in

762
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:21,489
universe at one point during the

763
00:41:24,659 --> 00:41:23,169
experience and when they came back to

764
00:41:26,819 --> 00:41:24,669
forgot it near-death experience people

765
00:41:28,589 --> 00:41:26,829
say exactly the same thing and

766
00:41:29,939 --> 00:41:28,599
near-death experience for example will

767
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:29,949
tell you the people who have near-death

768
00:41:34,229 --> 00:41:31,689
experiences will say they drain

769
00:41:36,809 --> 00:41:34,239
batteries they can't wear watches but

770
00:41:38,399 --> 00:41:36,819
erect electronic equipment when they

771
00:41:41,279 --> 00:41:38,409
touch it that's Chris blood so that's

772
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:41,289
that's exactly even Cathy Mardon they

773
00:41:43,949 --> 00:41:42,729
did a study on this where someone said I

774
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:43,959
think I was abducted last night and they

775
00:41:46,859 --> 00:41:45,369
would measure them and they would have

776
00:41:48,629 --> 00:41:46,869
this field that they could they could

777
00:41:50,459 --> 00:41:48,639
burn out electronics or the lights would

778
00:41:51,899 --> 00:41:50,469
go off and stuff like that near-death

779
00:41:52,979 --> 00:41:51,909
experience the same thing so I'm what

780
00:41:55,619 --> 00:41:52,989
I'm looking at now is all these

781
00:41:57,209 --> 00:41:55,629
crossovers and saying maybe this is all

782
00:42:00,089 --> 00:41:57,219
the same thing and we're just looking at

783
00:42:02,189 --> 00:42:00,099
it from different perspectives and that

784
00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:02,199
it's it's it's the same thing but the

785
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:03,999
key thing as as you said how's it going

786
00:42:06,839 --> 00:42:05,649
the thing that really blew me away in

787
00:42:08,789 --> 00:42:06,849
this the guy in LA

788
00:42:10,589 --> 00:42:08,799
who got it in the float tank he was so

789
00:42:12,479 --> 00:42:10,599
embarrassed about this this vision that

790
00:42:13,469 --> 00:42:12,489
he got that everything is exactly the

791
00:42:15,389 --> 00:42:13,479
way it's supposed to be that we choose

792
00:42:17,429 --> 00:42:15,399
everything that happens to us whether

793
00:42:19,529 --> 00:42:17,439
it's good bad or indifferent and and we

794
00:42:20,939 --> 00:42:19,539
it's all we play our cards he didn't

795
00:42:22,349 --> 00:42:20,949
tell his wife he didn't tell anybody so

796
00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:22,359
I was the first guy he told he said I

797
00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:23,830
can't believe I saw the ad this

798
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:26,020
and so in the in the reincarnation world

799
00:42:29,610 --> 00:42:28,240
it comes down to the whole idea and I've

800
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:29,620
never asked Kathy Martin about this

801
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,910
there's the whole thing with UFO

802
00:42:35,130 --> 00:42:33,280
abductees people where they say you know

803
00:42:36,810 --> 00:42:35,140
is this are they being taken against

804
00:42:38,250 --> 00:42:36,820
their will or a soul contract and

805
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:38,260
remember I asked everybody I asked

806
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:41,680
Barbara lamb I asked you know Mary rod

807
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:43,150
well and then I asked Kathy Martin I

808
00:42:46,890 --> 00:42:44,800
said Kathy what do you think says I

809
00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:46,900
didn't know so I got myself regress back

810
00:42:49,350 --> 00:42:48,700
to birth and I actually heard the words

811
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:49,360
come out of my mouth

812
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:52,030
I chose to do this and so this this

813
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:53,320
whole idea that we like to play the

814
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:55,060
victim we like to say on having a

815
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:56,770
terrible life and and you got a better

816
00:43:01,440 --> 00:42:58,090
life than me and I'm being treated

817
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:01,450
unfairly and in the end it may be this

818
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:03,970
almost would Jacque Jacque balle said it

819
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:05,890
may be just a giant Kabuki theater and

820
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:08,110
the only the only message is we aren't

821
00:43:13,770 --> 00:43:11,050
alone does it indicate to you oh by the

822
00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:13,780
way so the book is out working and you

823
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:16,750
co water with desta right yeah

824
00:43:22,260 --> 00:43:20,170
desta does desta actually did I love the

825
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:22,270
modality so she did all all the editing

826
00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:24,790
she did she put it up she arranged the

827
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:26,590
cover LS Ursa she does a lot of that

828
00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:27,730
stuff for me because she's younger than

829
00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:29,590
me and those the technology stuff that I

830
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:34,030
don't know but she she she does

831
00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:35,590
channeling and she's one of the ones

832
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:37,720
where she learned this thing so what the

833
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:39,970
whole idea the concept is so you you

834
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:41,710
you're in the alpha state most of the

835
00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:43,570
time right and when your eyes are awake

836
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:45,670
you're you're thinking whatever and then

837
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:47,110
when you when you want to go to sleep

838
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:48,820
you have to go from the alpha state down

839
00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:51,040
through the theta state into the Delta

840
00:43:55,110 --> 00:43:52,360
state that's when you're sleeping at the

841
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:55,120
bottom and it's the theta state is where

842
00:43:58,350 --> 00:43:56,770
these people pick it up so once you shut

843
00:44:00,540 --> 00:43:58,360
the left brain down you're in the theta

844
00:44:02,010 --> 00:44:00,550
state and you can suddenly you know

845
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:02,020
leave your body or have these

846
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:03,970
experiences whatever so desta was able

847
00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:06,610
to do this and so I when I first met her

848
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:08,470
she said they had taught her how to do

849
00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:10,330
this and so I would say to her okay

850
00:44:14,070 --> 00:44:11,950
ask them this ask them that and that's

851
00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:14,080
right that's the way I figured is if you

852
00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:15,580
have these things for people that can

853
00:44:19,230 --> 00:44:18,040
get in the field why would you not take

854
00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:19,240
advantage of this because it's it's

855
00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:21,550
almost like you know you have people who

856
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:23,320
do radio broadcast than you have Jimmy

857
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:24,490
Church I mean there's people at

858
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:27,070
different levels of how they do it so

859
00:44:29,790 --> 00:44:28,570
there are some Chandler's who are really

860
00:44:31,170 --> 00:44:29,800
not that good and there are some

861
00:44:33,060 --> 00:44:31,180
challenge that are really good like when

862
00:44:34,530 --> 00:44:33,070
you talk to Bashar you realize like this

863
00:44:36,270 --> 00:44:34,540
guy ain't this guy ain't making this

864
00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:36,280
stuff up he's he's at some different

865
00:44:39,299 --> 00:44:37,420
level than the

866
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,309
the people and so what I tried to do is

867
00:44:43,230 --> 00:44:41,680
I try to tap into that rather than using

868
00:44:44,849 --> 00:44:43,240
the rational analytical mind to try to

869
00:44:46,799 --> 00:44:44,859
figure it out I figure these people know

870
00:44:47,849 --> 00:44:46,809
something I'm gonna find out who these

871
00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:47,859
people are and how did they get the

872
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:49,240
field and how far did they get in the

873
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:50,890
field how much were they almost like

874
00:44:54,569 --> 00:44:52,569
through water how close did they get to

875
00:44:55,799 --> 00:44:54,579
the surface of the water where this

876
00:44:57,150 --> 00:44:55,809
where there's lots of light where they

877
00:44:59,579 --> 00:44:57,160
could see stuff because we're down at

878
00:45:01,680 --> 00:44:59,589
the bottom in the darkness and then use

879
00:45:03,420 --> 00:45:01,690
that if you if you have experiences who

880
00:45:05,069 --> 00:45:03,430
say they can heal people why would we

881
00:45:08,130 --> 00:45:05,079
not study them if there's people said

882
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:08,140
the 42% of all experiences say they have

883
00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:09,730
mathematical scientific or technical

884
00:45:12,990 --> 00:45:11,380
material in their head that they did not

885
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:13,000
learn in school why would you not talk

886
00:45:17,250 --> 00:45:14,890
these people so that's basically where

887
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:17,260
I'm chasing now is to try to track down

888
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:20,049
these people who seem to have ripped the

889
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:22,569
veil and gotten on the other side have

890
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:25,210
you found and we've talked about this

891
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:30,130
before but on other subjects but have

892
00:45:35,970 --> 00:45:32,319
you found that everything is connected

893
00:45:38,579 --> 00:45:35,980
right everything is connected and when

894
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:38,589
we're talking about these different

895
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:42,400
ideas inside of our community grant

896
00:45:48,059 --> 00:45:45,130
science and physics and quantify they've

897
00:45:51,660 --> 00:45:48,069
been pursuing this on an analytical

898
00:45:54,329 --> 00:45:51,670
sense through algorithms going back to

899
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:54,339
Isaac Newton right they're chasing these

900
00:46:01,020 --> 00:45:58,650
same things that we are questioning and

901
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,030
experiencing in our community -

902
00:46:04,319 --> 00:46:03,280
everything is connected isn't it yeah

903
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:04,329
that's the name of my publishing company

904
00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:05,970
it's all connected

905
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:10,270
that's the whole thing and you start

906
00:46:13,620 --> 00:46:12,250
looking at we sort of make these

907
00:46:16,410 --> 00:46:13,630
mistakes I had I had to download

908
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:16,420
experiences one was in 2012 one was in

909
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:18,670
about 2017 which is a very complex

910
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:21,490
download and it basically was giving me

911
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:23,440
the thing said is the world made out of

912
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,010
consciousness

913
00:46:27,390 --> 00:46:25,839
or may made out a nuts and bolts if it's

914
00:46:29,609 --> 00:46:27,400
made out notes of both that's one world

915
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:29,619
with certain rules but if it's not if

916
00:46:31,710 --> 00:46:30,970
it's made out of consciousness it's a

917
00:46:33,089 --> 00:46:31,720
completely different world with

918
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,099
different rules so it was giving India

919
00:46:37,170 --> 00:46:35,440
is it this or at that right and and and

920
00:46:39,329 --> 00:46:37,180
one of the things that I think we sort

921
00:46:42,140 --> 00:46:39,339
of miss miss mistake is we still are

922
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:42,150
stuck in this sort of Newtonian world

923
00:46:51,299 --> 00:46:46,240
where we're all mixed up so you'd get a

924
00:46:55,140 --> 00:46:53,249
time and space don't exist Einstein

925
00:46:56,549 --> 00:46:55,150
basically we know this we know this is

926
00:46:58,199 --> 00:46:56,559
probably going to be true that it's just

927
00:47:00,179 --> 00:46:58,209
an impression in our head and yet we

928
00:47:02,459 --> 00:47:00,189
talk about planets out there or you go

929
00:47:04,229 --> 00:47:02,469
up to the thing with the wheel John

930
00:47:05,130 --> 00:47:04,239
wheeler and another physicist where

931
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,140
they're talking about there's only one

932
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:07,119
electron and you get into quantum

933
00:47:10,349 --> 00:47:08,650
physics and you start to realize the

934
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:10,359
world is just not what we think it is

935
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:12,249
this idea that maybe all within

936
00:47:16,049 --> 00:47:14,049
ourselves if there is no out there out

937
00:47:17,909 --> 00:47:16,059
there where are you actually seeing and

938
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:17,919
that's where I I start going after these

939
00:47:21,149 --> 00:47:19,209
kids who are able to look through

940
00:47:24,089 --> 00:47:21,159
blindfolds so that the whole thing is

941
00:47:26,249 --> 00:47:24,099
how are these kids able to see or they

942
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:26,259
teach blind people to see and the thing

943
00:47:29,459 --> 00:47:28,329
is have they recreated like when you

944
00:47:30,359 --> 00:47:29,469
have an out-of-body experience or

945
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:30,369
near-death experience and you're

946
00:47:33,179 --> 00:47:31,599
floating at the corner of the room in

947
00:47:34,829 --> 00:47:33,189
the in the hospital room these people

948
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:34,839
can see and they can they can hear

949
00:47:37,739 --> 00:47:36,249
people say well the brain still alive

950
00:47:39,569 --> 00:47:37,749
doesn't matter if the eyes are closed it

951
00:47:40,769 --> 00:47:39,579
doesn't matter you cannot see so they're

952
00:47:42,149 --> 00:47:40,779
seeing with something else and then

953
00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:42,159
these people that you see that people

954
00:47:46,829 --> 00:47:44,380
started to develop these techniques and

955
00:47:48,659 --> 00:47:46,839
I think we're so far along the road in

956
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:48,669
terms of people starting to understand

957
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:50,079
how this works in the experiments and

958
00:47:53,370 --> 00:47:51,609
stuff there's just no money in it but I

959
00:47:55,679 --> 00:47:53,380
I think we've moved a long way in terms

960
00:47:57,209 --> 00:47:55,689
of understanding the role of

961
00:47:58,829 --> 00:47:57,219
consciousness in this thing and I keep

962
00:48:00,509 --> 00:47:58,839
saying over and over again I said until

963
00:48:03,179 --> 00:48:00,519
people understand the role of

964
00:48:04,529 --> 00:48:03,189
consciousness in this thing we are we

965
00:48:05,849 --> 00:48:04,539
are going to be just banging our head

966
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,859
against the wall we've done it for 73

967
00:48:09,779 --> 00:48:07,599
years we're looking at sightings which

968
00:48:12,749 --> 00:48:09,789
tell you one thing that that UFOs exist

969
00:48:15,569 --> 00:48:12,759
yes it's real or as Jacque balle said

970
00:48:17,549 --> 00:48:15,579
about about Nimitz it's a UFO sighting

971
00:48:18,989 --> 00:48:17,559
15 years ago it's time to get over it we

972
00:48:20,849 --> 00:48:18,999
got to move to the next step and try to

973
00:48:23,069 --> 00:48:20,859
figure out you know how do they get here

974
00:48:25,019 --> 00:48:23,079
or even if you if you've seen the

975
00:48:29,399 --> 00:48:25,029
interview where KITT green is being

976
00:48:31,229 --> 00:48:29,409
trying to get Jim peniston's DNA a

977
00:48:32,370 --> 00:48:31,239
couple of years ago Jim Penniston said

978
00:48:33,659 --> 00:48:32,380
I'm not letting this guy out of the room

979
00:48:35,759 --> 00:48:33,669
he's gonna tell me what the heck's going

980
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,769
on here and what kid Green says to him

981
00:48:39,899 --> 00:48:37,359
is we're trying to figure out how do

982
00:48:41,069 --> 00:48:39,909
they pop in and how do they pop out well

983
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:41,079
I've known that for a long time people

984
00:48:44,429 --> 00:48:42,729
think they're sort of flying here but

985
00:48:45,809 --> 00:48:44,439
anybody who knows enough and talked to

986
00:48:47,609 --> 00:48:45,819
enough experiences or people like

987
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,619
mission drama people realize they're

988
00:48:51,419 --> 00:48:49,359
popping in they're popping out they come

989
00:48:52,799 --> 00:48:51,429
in as a ball of light and they turn into

990
00:48:54,539 --> 00:48:52,809
a being and then go back to a ball of

991
00:48:56,219 --> 00:48:54,549
light and they disappear and that's why

992
00:48:57,809 --> 00:48:56,229
I'm saying it is way more complex than

993
00:48:59,459 --> 00:48:57,819
we think it is we think it's sort of

994
00:49:01,859 --> 00:48:59,469
like nuts and bolts or if you go to the

995
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:01,869
50 people and everybody has said the

996
00:49:04,980 --> 00:49:03,729
same thing when I did Orange County I

997
00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:04,990
did I know if you know the

998
00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:07,180
the guy who's the f-16 pilot there he

999
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:08,950
came and he told me his story and he

1000
00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:10,810
said you know III they said tell him

1001
00:49:15,930 --> 00:49:13,180
your story about flying the craft and I

1002
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:15,940
said I said you flew the crowd you flew

1003
00:49:19,859 --> 00:49:18,070
the craft he said yeah he said but it's

1004
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:19,869
just a dream I said everybody says it's

1005
00:49:23,490 --> 00:49:21,490
a dream tell me and then you say oh he's

1006
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:23,500
a pilot and said really my father is a

1007
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:25,330
pilot my sons apology and and then he

1008
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:28,270
end up telling me is a an f-16 retired a

1009
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:30,970
US Air Force colonel flew in Iraq and he

1010
00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:32,110
told me the same story and the whole

1011
00:49:36,330 --> 00:49:34,230
thing is that the craft is alive you

1012
00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:36,340
become one with the craft and whatever

1013
00:49:40,740 --> 00:49:38,830
you think is what the craft does and you

1014
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:40,750
can get stories where somebody would

1015
00:49:43,530 --> 00:49:42,250
like Ron Johnson tells the story where

1016
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:43,540
they asked where do you want to go and

1017
00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:46,480
he says I want to see the this.d I want

1018
00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:48,040
to see the Milky Way from a distance and

1019
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:49,630
they say it'll be a it'll be a very

1020
00:49:53,790 --> 00:49:51,910
intense g-force he said it lasted for

1021
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:53,800
one second he looked out the window and

1022
00:49:57,180 --> 00:49:55,090
there was the the Milky Way in the

1023
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:57,190
distance we do not have the technology

1024
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,690
no matter what anybody says this is

1025
00:50:02,880 --> 00:49:59,920
really complex

1026
00:50:04,650 --> 00:50:02,890
they are like lightyears ahead of us in

1027
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,660
terms of what's going on and I maintain

1028
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:06,400
that it is not going to be as physical

1029
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:09,190
as people think it is now he brought up

1030
00:50:14,310 --> 00:50:12,250
John Wheeler and and you we have wheeler

1031
00:50:19,890 --> 00:50:14,320
and Everett and maybe you know today

1032
00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:19,900
like Leonard Susskind that if they were

1033
00:50:26,580 --> 00:50:24,580
always leaning towards something more

1034
00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:26,590
spiritual trying to figure out what

1035
00:50:31,730 --> 00:50:29,470
consciousness was very controversial to

1036
00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:31,740
do in the physics community as you know

1037
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:37,180
very agnostic atheist for them for them

1038
00:50:43,740 --> 00:50:39,730
to lean in that direction kind of freaks

1039
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:43,750
everybody out but certainly that is

1040
00:50:49,230 --> 00:50:46,960
where physics is leading them they they

1041
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:49,240
can answer a lot of questions but they

1042
00:50:53,730 --> 00:50:52,510
can't get to the fundamental answers of

1043
00:50:57,060 --> 00:50:53,740
what consciousness is

1044
00:50:59,580 --> 00:50:57,070
and what entanglement may mean with all

1045
00:51:01,920 --> 00:50:59,590
of that right yeah and yet we've known

1046
00:51:03,150 --> 00:51:01,930
since 1950 I'm ever I donno if you saw

1047
00:51:04,830 --> 00:51:03,160
the thing where I was talking to Nick

1048
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,840
Pope and Nick Pope said back

1049
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:06,640
consciousness is not really my thing I

1050
00:51:10,109 --> 00:51:08,650
really don't know but the Canadians knew

1051
00:51:11,490 --> 00:51:10,119
so it's almost like the Brits were put

1052
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:11,500
in the naughty corner they didn't know

1053
00:51:15,150 --> 00:51:12,880
what's going on the Canadians knew in

1054
00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:15,160
November of 1950 that consciousness was

1055
00:51:18,910 --> 00:51:17,230
involved and that was that was two years

1056
00:51:20,650 --> 00:51:18,920
before anybody talked to a nail

1057
00:51:22,750 --> 00:51:20,660
I was before Adamski and Williamson all

1058
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:22,760
these guys where the Canadians wrote the

1059
00:51:27,099 --> 00:51:25,040
top secret memo said line saucers exist

1060
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:27,109
most highly classified subject United

1061
00:51:30,339 --> 00:51:28,910
States there's a small group headed by

1062
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:30,349
dr. banner of our bush that are trying

1063
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:31,910
to figure out the modus operandi

1064
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:33,410
mr. tremendous significance to the

1065
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:34,910
Americans and we were also told by

1066
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:36,410
Americans that other things such as

1067
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:38,240
mental phenomena might be involved and

1068
00:51:40,930 --> 00:51:39,650
they aren't doing very well because they

1069
00:51:42,430 --> 00:51:40,940
said if we're working on it they're

1070
00:51:42,789 --> 00:51:42,440
willing to exchange credentials and talk

1071
00:51:44,799 --> 00:51:42,799
to us

1072
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,809
so the Canadians knew in 1950 the quite

1073
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:46,880
the question is how did they know before

1074
00:51:50,049 --> 00:51:48,559
anybody talked to an alien that now we

1075
00:51:52,450 --> 00:51:50,059
know they're telepathic how did they

1076
00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:52,460
know well potentially because in Roswell

1077
00:51:55,359 --> 00:51:54,049
they had a live alien and the alien was

1078
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,369
talking in people's heads and they went

1079
00:51:59,260 --> 00:51:56,960
oh my god this thing's talking in our

1080
00:52:02,079 --> 00:51:59,270
heads so they'd known this is same as

1081
00:52:04,180 --> 00:52:02,089
when John Harrison talks to 2-band rich

1082
00:52:05,650 --> 00:52:04,190
and he says how did they how did it get

1083
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:05,660
here I need to know and he said he turns

1084
00:52:08,589 --> 00:52:06,890
around he says what do you know about

1085
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:08,599
ESP and they said well it means

1086
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:09,530
everything in time and space is

1087
00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:10,880
connected he said that's how it works

1088
00:52:16,569 --> 00:52:13,750
Eric Walker had a Penn State University

1089
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:16,579
assistant secretary of defense the guy

1090
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:19,280
who started DARPA and the the Institute

1091
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:20,930
for Defense analysis was a chairman the

1092
00:52:24,789 --> 00:52:23,359
top military think-tank said to us what

1093
00:52:26,799 --> 00:52:24,799
do you know about ESP unless you know

1094
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:26,809
about ESP you will not be taken in by

1095
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,130
the control group very few people

1096
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:30,319
understand how it works and then you

1097
00:52:34,180 --> 00:52:32,690
take Tom DeLonge Tom DeLonge goes to

1098
00:52:36,460 --> 00:52:34,190
Lockheed he's in the the top-secret

1099
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:36,470
skiff and the head scientist says how

1100
00:52:39,490 --> 00:52:38,089
does it work what's what's what's it all

1101
00:52:41,170 --> 00:52:39,500
about and then he says well I think

1102
00:52:42,730 --> 00:52:41,180
consciousness is involved and he said

1103
00:52:44,650 --> 00:52:42,740
this head scientist said now you're

1104
00:52:45,849 --> 00:52:44,660
talking and couldn't shut him up for 45

1105
00:52:47,890 --> 00:52:45,859
minutes want to talk about consciousness

1106
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:47,900
so they understand that conscious is

1107
00:52:52,359 --> 00:52:50,450
involved but it's so far beyond what

1108
00:52:54,730 --> 00:52:52,369
we've got in terms of understanding how

1109
00:52:56,859 --> 00:52:54,740
does it fit in and that's where I'm

1110
00:52:58,329 --> 00:52:56,869
actually doing a paper now I always have

1111
00:53:00,250 --> 00:52:58,339
this sort of debate people say oh the

1112
00:53:01,780 --> 00:53:00,260
government's got this technology like

1113
00:53:03,220 --> 00:53:01,790
Linda Howell was given this material

1114
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:03,230
from somebody that we've been trading

1115
00:53:07,420 --> 00:53:05,210
with star systems since the 1970s or

1116
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:07,430
whatever and I'm looking I'm going no I

1117
00:53:11,650 --> 00:53:09,440
don't think so if you look at Eric Davis

1118
00:53:13,569 --> 00:53:11,660
the debate between how you've seen the

1119
00:53:15,069 --> 00:53:13,579
emails between Eric Davis and Sarfati

1120
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:15,079
right and they're sitting there talking

1121
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:16,970
about the mathematics for flying the

1122
00:53:22,510 --> 00:53:20,690
Nimitz the tic-tac and and and at one

1123
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:22,520
point Davis says you're connecting dots

1124
00:53:26,140 --> 00:53:24,650
that don't exist go back to

1125
00:53:28,180 --> 00:53:26,150
consciousness physics and quit ruining

1126
00:53:29,859 --> 00:53:28,190
physics or however he phrased but he

1127
00:53:32,290 --> 00:53:29,869
used the word consciousness physics and

1128
00:53:34,180 --> 00:53:32,300
so if these two guys are arguing about

1129
00:53:36,820 --> 00:53:34,190
floating this little layered piece of

1130
00:53:38,380 --> 00:53:36,830
metal thank God anything and and help

1131
00:53:40,090 --> 00:53:38,390
put up with us he said no I don't think

1132
00:53:41,470 --> 00:53:40,100
I haven't seen the technology I just

1133
00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:41,480
released an interview with Richard Doty

1134
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,670
Richard Doty talks about he'll put off

1135
00:53:47,170 --> 00:53:45,680
being brought pieces of the craft and he

1136
00:53:48,910 --> 00:53:47,180
couldn't get him to work and if you talk

1137
00:53:50,770 --> 00:53:48,920
to Melinda lastly Melinda Leslie will

1138
00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:50,780
say they give him two experiences two

1139
00:53:53,260 --> 00:53:52,400
and they say can you make this work and

1140
00:53:53,770 --> 00:53:53,270
the experience that could make the

1141
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,780
piece-of-crap

1142
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:55,760
piece of thing work and as they all we

1143
00:53:58,660 --> 00:53:56,930
got another one they know who's an

1144
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:58,670
experienced are based upon whether they

1145
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:00,800
can make this piece of material so I

1146
00:54:06,220 --> 00:54:02,570
started looking I look at all these guys

1147
00:54:07,450 --> 00:54:06,230
it Ron Pandolfi Ron Pandolfi I know I

1148
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:07,460
don't deal with him but I deal with

1149
00:54:13,450 --> 00:54:09,410
people around him and he says basically

1150
00:54:15,310 --> 00:54:13,460
yes this phenomenon is for real but that

1151
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:15,320
we don't have anything all these people

1152
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:17,510
are looks loons crooks and worse that

1153
00:54:21,850 --> 00:54:19,010
they're just trying to make money off

1154
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:21,860
this thing and so I start looking at

1155
00:54:25,870 --> 00:54:23,570
these very high-level guys I have yet to

1156
00:54:27,790 --> 00:54:25,880
see a high-level guy who says yeah we

1157
00:54:29,980 --> 00:54:27,800
got it cuz every time you you look and

1158
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:29,990
I've followed these guys since ninth and

1159
00:54:35,650 --> 00:54:33,770
1980s like he'll put off a kid green kid

1160
00:54:36,730 --> 00:54:35,660
green actually was involved in talking

1161
00:54:38,860 --> 00:54:36,740
dead dr. Eric Walker

1162
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:38,870
so his help put off that was my guy that

1163
00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:39,710
was Eric Walker there was an

1164
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:42,950
investigation we did from 1983 on so you

1165
00:54:47,860 --> 00:54:45,200
you start to see this this thing where I

1166
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:47,870
think Eric Davis said they put it on the

1167
00:54:52,780 --> 00:54:51,170
on the shelf in 1989 and George Knapp

1168
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:52,790
seemed to confirm that as well that

1169
00:54:56,410 --> 00:54:54,050
every couple years to try to bring it

1170
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:56,420
out but it's so far advanced that the

1171
00:54:59,710 --> 00:54:58,130
idea that we've got stuff where it's ten

1172
00:55:01,780 --> 00:54:59,720
times the size inside as it is outside

1173
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:01,790
or that you can fly a craft with your

1174
00:55:06,820 --> 00:55:04,130
mind I don't think we have we have bio

1175
00:55:08,410 --> 00:55:06,830
boards where you can take a rat brain

1176
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:08,420
Otis you've seen these experiments where

1177
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:10,250
they take a rat brain and they fly an

1178
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:12,650
f-22 simulator with 10,000 neurons from

1179
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:14,510
a rat brain they can do that kind of

1180
00:55:17,260 --> 00:55:15,650
stuff but it's always going to be

1181
00:55:18,970 --> 00:55:17,270
biological and that's the whole idea

1182
00:55:21,010 --> 00:55:18,980
behind the craft it's not putting

1183
00:55:23,470 --> 00:55:21,020
consciousness into a craft it's all

1184
00:55:24,670 --> 00:55:23,480
consciousness so you take a bio board

1185
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:24,680
and you can you can fly an f-22

1186
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:27,290
simulator and that was 2004 so that's

1187
00:55:31,180 --> 00:55:29,330
almost 16 years ago that that was in the

1188
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:31,190
white in the white world so that kind of

1189
00:55:35,410 --> 00:55:33,290
stuff they can do that being a symbiotic

1190
00:55:36,610 --> 00:55:35,420
with a plane but but you're always going

1191
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:36,620
to need biology you're always going to

1192
00:55:41,740 --> 00:55:39,110
need living a living organism that that

1193
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:41,750
that moves it now I wanted to ask you

1194
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:43,850
before we get to the break when we bring

1195
00:55:47,410 --> 00:55:45,170
up some of the you know

1196
00:55:51,010 --> 00:55:47,420
the names in the boys club you know

1197
00:55:57,310 --> 00:55:51,020
Pandolfi and semi van and kit and and

1198
00:56:03,040 --> 00:55:57,320
Sarfatti put off Eric Davis that all of

1199
00:56:06,010 --> 00:56:03,050
them seem to be asking questions but it

1200
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:06,020
doesn't seem like any of them have

1201
00:56:11,010 --> 00:56:09,650
concrete answers are they chasing the

1202
00:56:13,660 --> 00:56:11,020
answers are they themselves

1203
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:13,670
compartmentalized

1204
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:17,570
are they not actually in the know know

1205
00:56:21,940 --> 00:56:20,000
that most of the community would like to

1206
00:56:23,980 --> 00:56:21,950
think that you know that's where they

1207
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:23,990
are at because they all have the

1208
00:56:28,210 --> 00:56:26,330
connections to the CIA they all have the

1209
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:28,220
connections going back to s RI they've

1210
00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:30,530
been involved in the subject since the

1211
00:56:35,830 --> 00:56:32,660
1970s they've been in the boys club

1212
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:35,840
together for a very long time but are

1213
00:56:42,220 --> 00:56:38,720
they actually still looking for answers

1214
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:42,230
or do they have them all right that's

1215
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:43,610
where the more I look at it the more I

1216
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:45,200
don't think they have the answers I

1217
00:56:49,180 --> 00:56:46,850
think they know more than you and I know

1218
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:49,190
they may know certain aspects but in

1219
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:51,530
terms of of having it there was there's

1220
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:53,810
this famous story with this core story

1221
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:56,960
that kid green and he'll put off and

1222
00:56:59,830 --> 00:56:58,640
Jack fell a get-together at a Denny's

1223
00:57:01,990 --> 00:56:59,840
restaurant if you've heard that story

1224
00:57:04,030 --> 00:57:02,000
and they say you know this is the 1980s

1225
00:57:05,230 --> 00:57:04,040
and they're saying you know well you

1226
00:57:06,940 --> 00:57:05,240
know it's lots of garbage going around

1227
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:06,950
lots of stories what do we know for sure

1228
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:10,130
and what they concluded was we're being

1229
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:12,530
visited by something we have crash

1230
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:15,290
material and we're not we're not able to

1231
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:17,450
back engineer it and that's what I've

1232
00:57:21,790 --> 00:57:19,250
heard and in fact the Wilson document

1233
00:57:23,410 --> 00:57:21,800
which has now been verified as as having

1234
00:57:25,180 --> 00:57:23,420
come from the Edgar Mitchell files which

1235
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:25,190
is where exactly I said it came from

1236
00:57:30,310 --> 00:57:27,490
mm-hmm right you'll see at the very end

1237
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:30,320
Wilson the intelligence guy in the

1238
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:32,030
United States can I get a briefing but

1239
00:57:35,890 --> 00:57:33,770
some other guy gets a briefing and that

1240
00:57:37,570 --> 00:57:35,900
guy says we can't back engineer this

1241
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:37,580
stuff we're not getting anywhere of it

1242
00:57:40,420 --> 00:57:38,960
and that's the whole thing because it

1243
00:57:42,670 --> 00:57:40,430
has this consciousness connection to it

1244
00:57:44,350 --> 00:57:42,680
that they they've stumbled on this this

1245
00:57:45,790 --> 00:57:44,360
whole thing so these guys what I believe

1246
00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:45,800
they're doing a lot of our experiences

1247
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:47,510
like some events and experience are Gary

1248
00:57:53,380 --> 00:57:49,520
Nolan's an experiencer Jack valets an

1249
00:57:55,660 --> 00:57:53,390
experiencer Sarfati indicates that how

1250
00:57:57,460 --> 00:57:55,670
put off might be an experiencer Sarfati

1251
00:57:58,570 --> 00:57:57,470
is an experiencer and you get these guys

1252
00:57:59,980 --> 00:57:58,580
who are trying to get out of the

1253
00:58:02,050 --> 00:57:59,990
black robe because what the problem is

1254
00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:02,060
according to what Dodi told me is that

1255
00:58:05,980 --> 00:58:03,710
you have a craft and you break the craft

1256
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:05,990
into pieces and use that's how you you

1257
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:07,850
do a scientific problem you break it

1258
00:58:10,930 --> 00:58:09,410
into small pieces you hand it out to

1259
00:58:12,010 --> 00:58:10,940
different labs but the labs aren't

1260
00:58:14,770 --> 00:58:12,020
talking to each other and that's why you

1261
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,780
always hear them talking about Tom

1262
00:58:17,830 --> 00:58:16,640
DeLonge in these guys it's all stovepipe

1263
00:58:19,390 --> 00:58:17,840
and we got to get it out of being

1264
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:19,400
stovepipe because nobody's talking to

1265
00:58:21,610 --> 00:58:19,910
each other

1266
00:58:22,750 --> 00:58:21,620
because every he's got the pieces but

1267
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:22,760
they're trying to get it into the white

1268
00:58:26,590 --> 00:58:25,040
world so that you can you meet all these

1269
00:58:28,420 --> 00:58:26,600
people this cosmic club or whatever

1270
00:58:29,620 --> 00:58:28,430
these people can talk with each other

1271
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:29,630
and how this stuff works

1272
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:31,010
and that's why they've gone to Congress

1273
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:33,290
that's why they've done the spin for the

1274
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:34,850
fear thing so you're not gonna get any

1275
00:58:38,770 --> 00:58:36,110
money because during the Obama

1276
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:38,780
administration cat Leslie Kane was doing

1277
00:58:42,010 --> 00:58:40,850
it with John Podesta and they were doing

1278
00:58:43,690 --> 00:58:42,020
the whole thing it's a threat to airline

1279
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:43,700
traffic and I guess Congress just like

1280
00:58:46,570 --> 00:58:45,200
get out of here you stupid idiots you

1281
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:46,580
know and now they're doing the thing or

1282
00:58:50,050 --> 00:58:48,170
they you know they're it's gonna be a

1283
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:50,060
threat we're gonna get taken over and

1284
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:51,770
stuff and then to get the money so they

1285
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:53,330
get the fear thing Congress gives them

1286
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:54,710
the money and they get this money for

1287
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:56,570
the white world so they can work on it

1288
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:57,680
and of course everything's gonna be a

1289
00:59:00,430 --> 00:58:58,880
job it was gonna walk around with a

1290
00:59:01,450 --> 00:59:00,440
suitcase full of money you're gonna have

1291
00:59:02,770 --> 00:59:01,460
patents you're gonna have all of this

1292
00:59:04,090 --> 00:59:02,780
kind of stuff so they're trying to move

1293
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:04,100
it into the white world which is a good

1294
00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:06,290
thing but then the thing is what are

1295
00:59:09,790 --> 00:59:07,910
they gonna do I mean you take Trump's

1296
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:09,800
latest speech about going to Mars and

1297
00:59:13,630 --> 00:59:11,450
we're gonna have great new weapons and

1298
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:13,640
stuff and that's my fear is that we're

1299
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:15,290
gonna use this for weapons rather than

1300
00:59:23,890 --> 00:59:19,610
to make a better mankind now in 60

1301
00:59:27,070 --> 00:59:23,900
seconds grant we have that right we have

1302
00:59:31,420 --> 00:59:27,080
the core group of the boys club and then

1303
00:59:34,990 --> 00:59:31,430
we have what has to be volumes of data

1304
00:59:38,830 --> 00:59:35,000
and knowledge of the real stuff inside

1305
00:59:39,220 --> 00:59:38,840
of the Pentagon and maybe the CIA and so

1306
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:39,230
forth

1307
00:59:48,250 --> 00:59:44,330
area 51 then we have that how does the

1308
00:59:50,620 --> 00:59:48,260
boys club get access to that or is that

1309
00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:50,630
to shut off forever can you do that in

1310
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:53,150
60 seconds well I think they've all got

1311
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:54,170
connections if you hear the latest

1312
00:59:57,940 --> 00:59:56,090
interview that was released with Eric

1313
01:00:00,310 --> 00:59:57,950
Davis he says he's still a contractor on

1314
01:00:02,140 --> 01:00:00,320
a tip and Eric Davis worked in

1315
01:00:03,970 --> 01:00:02,150
intelligence when he was very young he

1316
01:00:05,890 --> 01:00:03,980
was in Korea and working on intelligence

1317
01:00:08,410 --> 01:00:05,900
and then he worked the Air Force on an

1318
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:08,420
TR you know antigrav not anti-gravity

1319
01:00:15,070 --> 01:00:12,410
but you know tech technical stuff really

1320
01:00:17,290 --> 01:00:15,080
to this for the airforce and so there

1321
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:17,300
they're all sort of in the field and

1322
01:00:21,010 --> 01:00:18,890
they've got little pieces of the story

1323
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:21,020
it's the general story that they they're

1324
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:24,530
missing so they according to any what

1325
01:00:27,610 --> 01:00:26,330
Richard told you Richard told you that

1326
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:27,620
he'd seen the document the Wilson

1327
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:28,970
document before from somebody who

1328
01:00:32,020 --> 01:00:30,770
already had it mm-hm and he was told

1329
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:32,030
there was only there was at least one

1330
01:00:35,770 --> 01:00:33,920
body and that's the whole idea about the

1331
01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:35,780
alien autopsy so even though they've got

1332
01:00:39,310 --> 01:00:37,280
craft material and they've got bodies

1333
01:00:41,830 --> 01:00:39,320
the thing is it's is one thing to have

1334
01:00:42,250 --> 01:00:41,840
it like take a watch in the sixteenth

1335
01:00:44,620 --> 01:00:42,260
century

1336
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:44,630
and turn it around and make technology

1337
01:00:47,230 --> 01:00:46,250
out of it now that's where we're missing

1338
01:00:48,310 --> 01:00:47,240
two things so they've got little bits

1339
01:00:50,590 --> 01:00:48,320
and pieces they know more than you and I

1340
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but in terms of how this thing goes

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together I don't think they know because

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they're not talking and help put off

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confirm to the stars is not talking

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about consciousness and I say as long as

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they're not talking about consciousness

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they're just trying to get money and

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they're trying to do something that's

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still not gonna work let's take our

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break right here our guest tonight grant

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Cameron I'm your host Jimmy church this

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is fade to black I told you it's good to

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be one of those conversations you stay

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right there on the GameChanger network

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and kg are a the plan of Moore with

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grant after this short break

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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radio network and K GRA the global radio

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on the game changer network and the kgr

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Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy Church

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Church of fade to black and you can

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become an official fader not by just

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going to our membership section at Jimmy

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Church radio.com hello this is Sarina

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right Kayla from conscious life Expo and

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you're listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy Church who holds the Lucky Pony

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of the graylien report and you're

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listening to jimmy church on fade to

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black across the globe on the

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game-changer radio network and the one

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welcome back fade to black I'm you'll

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01:06:34,780 --> 01:06:32,390
see me Church I guess the night grant

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01:06:37,420 --> 01:06:34,790
Cameron you can follow me on Twitter at

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01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:37,430
Shh radio you can follow grant that's

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:39,920
real easy at Grant Cameron we've got

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01:06:45,490 --> 01:06:43,250
everything up in Twitter grant hangs out

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01:06:48,670 --> 01:06:45,500
in social media man he's always always

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01:06:51,099 --> 01:06:48,680
causing trouble and and grant you know

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01:06:53,950 --> 01:06:51,109
this year you know 2020 everything got

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01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:53,960
cancelled except we're going to be going

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01:07:00,820 --> 01:06:57,890
up to Laughlin Nevada down to Laughlin

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Nevada for the Star Wars UFOs and

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artificial intelligence conference

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:06,080
coming up in November you excited yeah

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01:07:10,780 --> 01:07:08,810
well Canadians when it's 40 below are

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always excited to go to Laughlin Nevada

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it's a no question about it and this is

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01:07:21,099 --> 01:07:19,490
the thing for me and you where we go out

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01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:21,109
all year long and attend these

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01:07:24,790 --> 01:07:22,670
conferences and get to hang out and

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01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:24,800
break bread and and talk to everybody

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01:07:30,340 --> 01:07:27,440
it's so much fun that's been taken away

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01:07:33,250 --> 01:07:30,350
from us I'm really itching to get to

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01:07:34,990 --> 01:07:33,260
Laughlin Nevada so we can start to get

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01:07:38,830 --> 01:07:35,000
back to normal I don't know about you

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01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:38,840
but I need to see some faces yeah and

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01:07:42,130 --> 01:07:40,250
that's that's the big thing people don't

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01:07:46,359 --> 01:07:42,140
realize in the UFO community is that a

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lot of people almost everybody it's

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01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:47,869
almost a pattern people will come to me

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01:07:51,609 --> 01:07:49,730
experiences and say they'll tell their

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01:07:54,460 --> 01:07:51,619
story and then they'll say oh and my kid

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01:07:56,140 --> 01:07:54,470
thinks I'm crazy and my you know I'm not

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01:07:58,090 --> 01:07:56,150
allowed to see my grandkids and I go

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01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:58,100
that's the pattern that's exactly the

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:07:59,359
way it is and in fact I had the

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01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:00,890
near-death experience I said to the one

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01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:03,170
woman with the near-death experience she

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said her she did the some of the major

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work for Jeffrey Long's book that was

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number one on the New York Times

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bestseller list and I said to her she

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:11,869
said my father was an atheist my mother

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or my mother's an atheist my father

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didn't care about religion so I said

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what about your kids what are your kids

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think no they think I'm crazy

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no well it's just it's like and and it's

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almost like generational it's like my

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01:08:28,090 --> 01:08:26,060
kid the same thing that's why I'm

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01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:28,100
putting my stuff in a in an archives and

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01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:29,810
I always encourage people to do it if

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01:08:32,590 --> 01:08:31,190
you've if you've been in the field and

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you've got some material you should

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document your story and then you put it

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01:08:38,380 --> 01:08:37,069
in an archives because usually my kid I

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01:08:40,690 --> 01:08:38,390
mean my kill throws stuff in the garbage

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01:08:41,860 --> 01:08:40,700
he has no interest whatsoever and you

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always think that it'll

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son and Wilbur Smith who ran the

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Canadian government UFO pariah was the

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same thing his kids had no interest

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whatsoever it's the general pattern so

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01:08:52,270 --> 01:08:50,360
when you get these conferences what you

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01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:52,280
see is people go to its conferences and

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01:08:56,590 --> 01:08:54,170
it's like long-lost friends that's like

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01:08:58,930 --> 01:08:56,600
whoa how can I kiss and everybody's just

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01:09:00,910 --> 01:08:58,940
that's their family because this is

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01:09:02,260 --> 01:09:00,920
people who will listen to them or you

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01:09:03,370 --> 01:09:02,270
see these experience your things where

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01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:03,380
they have in the morning member how they

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01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:07,310
a UFO the big UFO Congress or stuff they

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01:09:09,970 --> 01:09:08,510
have in the backroom and they have them

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01:09:11,650 --> 01:09:09,980
at 8 o'clock in the morning because

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everybody sort of afraid to be seen and

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01:09:16,150 --> 01:09:13,940
so it's an hour and a half before the

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01:09:18,310 --> 01:09:16,160
first lecture starts and the place is

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01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:18,320
packed it's like 150 people and people

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are crying and they come from all around

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01:09:24,580 --> 01:09:22,400
the country and that's because this is

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:24,590
the this is the community where you can

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01:09:29,050 --> 01:09:26,810
talk to people you can share stories and

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01:09:33,010 --> 01:09:29,060
nobody thinks you're you're you're a

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01:09:35,860 --> 01:09:33,020
nutcase one of the things that I enjoy

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01:09:39,130 --> 01:09:35,870
and I don't know how I've had the

1537
01:09:43,270 --> 01:09:39,140
ability to do this but going to

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conferences as often as we do where you

1539
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:45,260
have in some cases you know 500

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01:09:51,010 --> 01:09:47,570
attendees a thousand attendees 5,000

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01:09:54,250 --> 01:09:51,020
attendees I know everybody right I know

1542
01:09:54,670 --> 01:09:54,260
every attendee we see them over and over

1543
01:09:58,300 --> 01:09:54,680
again

1544
01:10:02,020 --> 01:09:58,310
and just like you it's it's one big

1545
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:02,030
family and and I miss it and and for

1546
01:10:05,950 --> 01:10:03,440
those out there that have never been to

1547
01:10:08,140 --> 01:10:05,960
a conference that's why I encourage you

1548
01:10:11,230 --> 01:10:08,150
to go first off it's just fun you get to

1549
01:10:15,730 --> 01:10:11,240
say whatever you want somebody is going

1550
01:10:17,970 --> 01:10:15,740
to listen and and you are able to hang

1551
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:17,980
out with like-minded people that you

1552
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:20,330
more than likely your family doesn't

1553
01:10:24,850 --> 01:10:22,730
listen or they don't have a concern or

1554
01:10:27,340 --> 01:10:24,860
your coworkers you go to a UFO

1555
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:27,350
conference and it's like being at the

1556
01:10:32,170 --> 01:10:29,600
barbershop right you can just go in and

1557
01:10:34,060 --> 01:10:32,180
say whatever you want and people are

1558
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:34,070
kind of surprises I can talk very fast

1559
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:36,770
and talk for hours on end but when I'm

1560
01:10:39,790 --> 01:10:38,480
here in Winnipeg I really don't talk to

1561
01:10:41,470 --> 01:10:39,800
anybody and people are really surprised

1562
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:41,480
when they hear that that I I can go days

1563
01:10:45,970 --> 01:10:42,890
though talking to anybody because

1564
01:10:51,550 --> 01:10:45,980
they're just nobody's into it and so you

1565
01:10:53,650 --> 01:10:51,560
get the the situation where you you get

1566
01:10:55,150 --> 01:10:53,660
sort of ostracized and somebody said to

1567
01:10:55,390 --> 01:10:55,160
me one time they said you know you

1568
01:10:57,130 --> 01:10:55,400
really

1569
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:57,140
have any friends I said what you're

1570
01:11:01,689 --> 01:10:58,250
kidding me I don't have any friends I

1571
01:11:03,729 --> 01:11:01,699
may not have any friends here but I said

1572
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:03,739
I can go to any state in the United

1573
01:11:06,939 --> 01:11:05,600
States I can go to most countries and I

1574
01:11:08,890 --> 01:11:06,949
can call up anything I get in trouble I

1575
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:08,900
can call up in LA and call for ten

1576
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:10,610
people I would know and that's what

1577
01:11:14,530 --> 01:11:11,810
people don't realize your friends are

1578
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:14,540
all over the place and it doesn't it's a

1579
01:11:18,490 --> 01:11:17,090
different sort of community and it's a

1580
01:11:20,649 --> 01:11:18,500
lot of it's on the internet but it's

1581
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:20,659
people you know and it's surprising when

1582
01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:22,400
you start listening how many people you

1583
01:11:26,830 --> 01:11:24,800
actually know it is staggering how many

1584
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,840
people we actually do know yeah when I

1585
01:11:30,430 --> 01:11:27,920
have somebody come up to me at a

1586
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:30,440
conference and go hey Jimmy it's me UFO

1587
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:33,890
Bob on Twitter my dude how you doing and

1588
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:35,840
you've been talking to him for years

1589
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:38,690
right and we know everything about each

1590
01:11:43,899 --> 01:11:41,330
other's family and life and and I see

1591
01:11:46,899 --> 01:11:43,909
the same thing going on inside of the

1592
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:46,909
UFO community because they hang out they

1593
01:11:51,820 --> 01:11:49,610
know each other not the researchers not

1594
01:11:54,100 --> 01:11:51,830
the authors the community knows each

1595
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:54,110
other too and it's great to see them all

1596
01:12:00,070 --> 01:11:57,679
get together and laugh and have fun I

1597
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:00,080
wanted to ask you let's circle back to

1598
01:12:09,459 --> 01:12:04,400
something when you mention symbiotic and

1599
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,469
I would have to I speculated on this a

1600
01:12:13,870 --> 01:12:11,840
lot grant that if we're dealing with the

1601
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:13,880
technology from somebody that can get

1602
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:17,210
here remember we haven't allegedly we

1603
01:12:21,130 --> 01:12:18,770
don't know for sure but we haven't

1604
01:12:24,970 --> 01:12:21,140
gotten there yet right now we don't have

1605
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:24,980
starships we don't have we're not that I

1606
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:29,090
know of we're not jumping into stargates

1607
01:12:34,270 --> 01:12:31,760
and wormholes yet maybe we have in the

1608
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:34,280
past but that being said they are

1609
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:36,890
definitely getting here so we're dealing

1610
01:12:42,250 --> 01:12:39,290
with the technology and an intelligence

1611
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:42,260
that quite frankly we shouldn't

1612
01:12:46,419 --> 01:12:44,480
understand there's no way that we can

1613
01:12:49,450 --> 01:12:46,429
have a concept with that which is fine

1614
01:12:52,050 --> 01:12:49,460
but if we're talking about something

1615
01:12:54,370 --> 01:12:52,060
like a symbiotic control and

1616
01:12:57,070 --> 01:12:54,380
communication that only makes sense to

1617
01:13:00,040 --> 01:12:57,080
me it only makes sense now would we

1618
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:00,050
understand that I don't know but would

1619
01:13:06,430 --> 01:13:03,170
that limit our ability to fly their

1620
01:13:08,260 --> 01:13:06,440
craft right let's say something we do a

1621
01:13:12,370 --> 01:13:08,270
crash retrieval

1622
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:12,380
or were given a craft does that mean we

1623
01:13:18,010 --> 01:13:15,370
can't fly it I mean right is that run

1624
01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:18,020
the analogy I would use is your cell

1625
01:13:22,540 --> 01:13:20,450
phone so in order to get my cell phone

1626
01:13:24,850 --> 01:13:22,550
to turn on you need my fingerprint right

1627
01:13:26,230 --> 01:13:24,860
and that's just one step removed but you

1628
01:13:27,610 --> 01:13:26,240
need the consciousness so when you see

1629
01:13:29,410 --> 01:13:27,620
like for example Chris pletzl

1630
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,420
so hey Chris how do you fly craft then

1631
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:31,280
he says okay you go in he said there's

1632
01:13:35,140 --> 01:13:32,810
this pedestal standing there and it's

1633
01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:35,150
like a beehive pedestal and they tell

1634
01:13:38,050 --> 01:13:36,710
him to put his hand on the thing so

1635
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:38,060
you're either people are either putting

1636
01:13:41,740 --> 01:13:39,920
their hand on a ball or like a beehive

1637
01:13:43,690 --> 01:13:41,750
they're putting it on a flat panel or

1638
01:13:46,690 --> 01:13:43,700
they're putting it on as like a thing on

1639
01:13:47,980 --> 01:13:46,700
the wall and once you touch it they'll

1640
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:47,990
all describe the same thing they'll say

1641
01:13:53,620 --> 01:13:51,050
as soon as I touch the craft I became

1642
01:13:55,660 --> 01:13:53,630
one with the craft the craft was alive I

1643
01:13:57,940 --> 01:13:55,670
in the craft work together it's like I

1644
01:13:59,560 --> 01:13:57,950
was the craft and whatever I thought is

1645
01:14:01,630 --> 01:13:59,570
what the craft did so it's that idea

1646
01:14:03,010 --> 01:14:01,640
it's like the the putting your hand on

1647
01:14:04,690 --> 01:14:03,020
the cell phone and making this cell

1648
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:04,700
phone turn on so what you need in order

1649
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:07,010
to turn this the UFO on is you need the

1650
01:14:10,510 --> 01:14:09,050
consciousness you need the handprint to

1651
01:14:11,980 --> 01:14:10,520
turn that craft on it's done with

1652
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:11,990
conscience turned on with consciousness

1653
01:14:15,070 --> 01:14:13,730
and it's flown with consciousness there

1654
01:14:19,450 --> 01:14:15,080
is no steering wheel even if you go back

1655
01:14:21,430 --> 01:14:19,460
to what's-his-name Cat Stevens Cat

1656
01:14:23,470 --> 01:14:21,440
Stevens the famous musician mm-hmm with

1657
01:14:25,690 --> 01:14:23,480
abducted he said quite clearly and he

1658
01:14:27,190 --> 01:14:25,700
was dumped in London he wrote two songs

1659
01:14:28,930 --> 01:14:27,200
about his abduction one was called

1660
01:14:31,090 --> 01:14:28,940
longer boats one was called freezing

1661
01:14:33,250 --> 01:14:31,100
steel and I believe the song freezing

1662
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:33,260
steel is written in 1972 he said I was

1663
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:35,210
on the ship the ship of freezing steel

1664
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:37,130
the ship without the guiding wheel and

1665
01:14:40,570 --> 01:14:39,050
so you can ask all 50 people they'll say

1666
01:14:42,580 --> 01:14:40,580
exactly it's like the reading off the

1667
01:14:44,620 --> 01:14:42,590
cue card is unbelievable they'll they'll

1668
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:44,630
never say there's a control panel

1669
01:14:49,060 --> 01:14:46,970
there's not a steering wheel or whatever

1670
01:14:50,530 --> 01:14:49,070
it's always this hand thing as always

1671
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:50,540
consciousness is always becoming one of

1672
01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:51,770
the craft and then there's these bizarre

1673
01:14:54,610 --> 01:14:53,150
little things that make you know that

1674
01:14:57,070 --> 01:14:54,620
they're telling the truth for example

1675
01:14:59,500 --> 01:14:57,080
the guide the the f-16 guy out of LA

1676
01:15:01,360 --> 01:14:59,510
same as I have a guy seven four seven

1677
01:15:02,620 --> 01:15:01,370
United Airlines pilot they'll say this

1678
01:15:05,230 --> 01:15:02,630
thing they'll come in the craft and

1679
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:05,240
there's people behind them and they

1680
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:06,650
don't know if it's beings or if they

1681
01:15:09,310 --> 01:15:08,210
don't if it's human beings and they'll

1682
01:15:10,420 --> 01:15:09,320
stand in the middle of the craft they

1683
01:15:12,250 --> 01:15:10,430
all tell the same start to go I'm

1684
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:12,260
standing in the middle of craft and I

1685
01:15:16,210 --> 01:15:14,090
don't know what to do and then they they

1686
01:15:18,610 --> 01:15:16,220
say I hear this voice BAM I say go ahead

1687
01:15:20,050 --> 01:15:18,620
and do it and then they guy says I don't

1688
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:20,060
know what to do and then they say you

1689
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:21,920
know what to do just do it and then

1690
01:15:25,090 --> 01:15:23,570
like the f16 guy goes and put his hands

1691
01:15:26,740 --> 01:15:25,100
on this panel and he said as soon as

1692
01:15:28,660 --> 01:15:26,750
he's got his hands on the panel he said

1693
01:15:30,220 --> 01:15:28,670
it was like suction cups on f-16 he said

1694
01:15:31,780 --> 01:15:30,230
suddenly boom he's a courteous flying

1695
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:31,790
the craft he's drunk oh my god he's

1696
01:15:35,020 --> 01:15:33,170
flying the crowd and then he takes one

1697
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:35,030
hand off the panel and he's waiting for

1698
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:37,610
the thing to stall and then he's he's

1699
01:15:40,750 --> 01:15:39,440
nothing happens then he takes his other

1700
01:15:42,729 --> 01:15:40,760
hand off he keeps up a couple inches

1701
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:42,739
above the panel so he can slam it back

1702
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:45,650
down if the flying saucer does but they

1703
01:15:49,150 --> 01:15:47,090
can take their hand off but did become

1704
01:15:50,740 --> 01:15:49,160
one so you get the situation like if you

1705
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:50,750
remember Chris Bledsoe the story with

1706
01:15:55,209 --> 01:15:53,210
John Alexander so John Alexander and

1707
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:55,219
that's what happens is these government

1708
01:15:58,510 --> 01:15:56,810
officials go and they try to contact

1709
01:16:00,640 --> 01:15:58,520
people like let so how are you getting

1710
01:16:02,140 --> 01:16:00,650
contact how is this coming in who are

1711
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:02,150
you talking to this and that's what

1712
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:03,110
you've got to do you've got to look at

1713
01:16:06,189 --> 01:16:04,250
the experiences as to what they're doing

1714
01:16:08,169 --> 01:16:06,199
so John goes down there and he sees

1715
01:16:09,820 --> 01:16:08,179
Chris shows him around shows him where

1716
01:16:11,740 --> 01:16:09,830
the abduction took place you know all

1717
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:11,750
the different things that happen under

1718
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:13,250
standing there and all sudden chris says

1719
01:16:17,380 --> 01:16:15,920
they're here they're here and John's

1720
01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:17,390
John Alexander says well how do you know

1721
01:16:21,070 --> 01:16:19,280
there I just know they're here I know

1722
01:16:22,450 --> 01:16:21,080
they're here and he said then John says

1723
01:16:23,950 --> 01:16:22,460
something but this thing appears above

1724
01:16:25,930 --> 01:16:23,960
them and goes flying off into the sky

1725
01:16:27,790 --> 01:16:25,940
the reason that they can tell they're

1726
01:16:29,620 --> 01:16:27,800
here a lot of abductees will say the

1727
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:29,630
same thing I'm in the morning I'm trying

1728
01:16:31,630 --> 01:16:30,650
to figure out they're coming today I

1729
01:16:33,580 --> 01:16:31,640
know they're coming I know they're

1730
01:16:35,860 --> 01:16:33,590
coming because once you've been one with

1731
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:35,870
the craft you vibrate the same as the

1732
01:16:39,669 --> 01:16:37,760
craft you have the vibration so when

1733
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:39,679
that vibrations in the area you can

1734
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:41,570
sense the vibration and that's why I

1735
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:43,610
think that people blow out lightbulbs

1736
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:45,770
that's why they they have electronic

1737
01:16:48,669 --> 01:16:47,330
problems is because you're at a higher

1738
01:16:50,770 --> 01:16:48,679
frequency they take you to this higher

1739
01:16:52,959 --> 01:16:50,780
frequency you come back and and then

1740
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:52,969
you've got this vibration thing that is

1741
01:16:57,010 --> 01:16:55,370
affecting electronics so when the craft

1742
01:16:59,500 --> 01:16:57,020
is in the area and a lot of them will

1743
01:17:00,729 --> 01:16:59,510
tell that I I did the orb saying I don't

1744
01:17:02,620 --> 01:17:00,739
you saw the aura panel I've got these

1745
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:02,630
people who've got like thousands of warm

1746
01:17:06,669 --> 01:17:04,370
photographs and always say them are you

1747
01:17:08,740 --> 01:17:06,679
actually shooting the the orb do you see

1748
01:17:10,450 --> 01:17:08,750
the orb flying around no no I just sense

1749
01:17:12,189 --> 01:17:10,460
it I know it's there they tell me to go

1750
01:17:13,660 --> 01:17:12,199
outside and and and I know where to

1751
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:13,670
shoot this I'm what part of the sky and

1752
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:15,050
I shoot and all these these things

1753
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:16,850
appear on the film so it's this idea

1754
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:18,650
that we're all the whole thing is it's

1755
01:17:23,380 --> 01:17:20,480
all one thing it's all connected we are

1756
01:17:25,959 --> 01:17:23,390
all one thing we're all vibrating and if

1757
01:17:27,370 --> 01:17:25,969
you can if you can get the signal if you

1758
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:27,380
can get rid of the chitter-chatter in

1759
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:29,210
the in the brain and pick up the signal

1760
01:17:33,970 --> 01:17:31,130
and that's why people talk about

1761
01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:33,980
meditation that's why right you have

1762
01:17:36,780 --> 01:17:34,960
that sort of thing where your

1763
01:17:38,940 --> 01:17:36,790
the vibration like the mission Rama

1764
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:38,950
protocol is you do the mantras the

1765
01:17:43,290 --> 01:17:41,530
raising vibration so the being or if you

1766
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:43,300
take seances the same thing seance is

1767
01:17:46,770 --> 01:17:45,040
the same thing they sing songs they'd

1768
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:46,780
raise the vibration for the beings to

1769
01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:48,130
come in they can make that contact and

1770
01:17:52,740 --> 01:17:50,860
it's all vibration it's all energy there

1771
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:52,750
is no nuts and bolts and we're making

1772
01:17:57,390 --> 01:17:54,730
these false assumptions that it's it's

1773
01:17:58,770 --> 01:17:57,400
nuts and bolts but III have another guy

1774
01:18:01,020 --> 01:17:58,780
we're helping him publish his book he's

1775
01:18:02,940 --> 01:18:01,030
a guy out of Israel and he had the the

1776
01:18:04,770 --> 01:18:02,950
beings his beings were like green beings

1777
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:04,780
that look like greys and he talked about

1778
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:07,330
them leaving he said when they left they

1779
01:18:11,670 --> 01:18:10,210
left and they all held hands in a circle

1780
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:11,680
and they started to make this circle and

1781
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:13,330
went round and round and round and

1782
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:15,130
faster and faster he said suddenly they

1783
01:18:18,420 --> 01:18:17,110
turned into light and then the light got

1784
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:18,430
smaller smaller and tall as a little

1785
01:18:22,620 --> 01:18:20,890
tiny ball and it was gone so the

1786
01:18:24,780 --> 01:18:22,630
question is is it blush is it

1787
01:18:26,459 --> 01:18:24,790
nuts-and-bolts or is it a ball of light

1788
01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:26,469
and if it's a ball of light does it eat

1789
01:18:29,220 --> 01:18:27,760
bacon eggs toast and coffee in the

1790
01:18:31,650 --> 01:18:29,230
morning when I could seem it's moving

1791
01:18:33,450 --> 01:18:31,660
it's moving into this thing almost like

1792
01:18:36,180 --> 01:18:33,460
Bashar says if you remember Bashar says

1793
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:36,190
we come to you in your dreams because

1794
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:38,650
now you're in our world and that's the

1795
01:18:42,959 --> 01:18:40,930
whole deal it's this world of musicians

1796
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:42,969
to pick up songs from the from the from

1797
01:18:47,010 --> 01:18:45,850
the field or people who are savants who

1798
01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:47,020
are able to do these colored

1799
01:18:50,190 --> 01:18:48,910
calculations that there's all this stuff

1800
01:18:52,140 --> 01:18:50,200
is in the field all the answers are

1801
01:18:54,090 --> 01:18:52,150
there near-death experiences and

1802
01:18:55,140 --> 01:18:54,100
abductees tell the same story at one

1803
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:55,150
point during the experience they knew

1804
01:18:58,290 --> 01:18:56,410
the answer to everything in yours and

1805
01:18:59,520 --> 01:18:58,300
I'll say to them like how do you know

1806
01:19:00,360 --> 01:18:59,530
you knew everything in the universe how

1807
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:00,370
do you know there wasn't something

1808
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:02,110
number seven eight nine on the far side

1809
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:03,310
of the universe they forgot to tell you

1810
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:04,960
about and because I had the download

1811
01:19:08,970 --> 01:19:06,130
experience just said the same thing

1812
01:19:10,650 --> 01:19:08,980
they'll say I'm not sure I just know and

1813
01:19:13,229 --> 01:19:10,660
that's the thing it comes with absolute

1814
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:13,239
certainty I know I was there it was more

1815
01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:14,560
real than the real world when I came

1816
01:19:17,700 --> 01:19:16,450
here this is the dream and they're

1817
01:19:19,229 --> 01:19:17,710
picking up the spiritual and then I'd

1818
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:19,239
say well how long did it last

1819
01:19:21,930 --> 01:19:20,560
how long did you know everything and

1820
01:19:23,550 --> 01:19:21,940
they said it was exactly like a dream

1821
01:19:24,750 --> 01:19:23,560
and I said I'm gonna remember I'm gonna

1822
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:24,760
remember and I'm coming back I'm gonna

1823
01:19:27,540 --> 01:19:26,320
remember and as they came back it was

1824
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:27,550
like a dream just - did you as

1825
01:19:30,540 --> 01:19:29,290
disappearing and he said by the end of

1826
01:19:32,430 --> 01:19:30,550
the first day all they could remember

1827
01:19:33,390 --> 01:19:32,440
was at one point they knew the answer to

1828
01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:33,400
everything in the universe

1829
01:19:40,979 --> 01:19:37,030
now me that it's about positive

1830
01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:40,989
intention and and this is what works for

1831
01:19:48,779 --> 01:19:43,360
me when I'm with a group of people grant

1832
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:48,789
it don't laugh comedy laughter pastrana

1833
01:19:54,089 --> 01:19:51,760
me sandwiches yeah I can call them in

1834
01:19:57,719 --> 01:19:54,099
right which says to me that et is hungry

1835
01:20:00,029 --> 01:19:57,729
and they like a good stand-up routine

1836
01:20:02,219 --> 01:20:00,039
but it's about positive intention isn't

1837
01:20:04,079 --> 01:20:02,229
it yeah yeah it's a way like there's

1838
01:20:06,119 --> 01:20:04,089
different modalities for example I did

1839
01:20:07,919 --> 01:20:06,129
your Gary Nolan from the guys doing the

1840
01:20:10,739 --> 01:20:07,929
DNA stuff with the experiencers from

1841
01:20:13,020 --> 01:20:10,749
Stanford University right he says I

1842
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:13,030
don't know how it works but I know how

1843
01:20:16,829 --> 01:20:15,010
to make it work and he says I go through

1844
01:20:18,359 --> 01:20:16,839
all the problems this is the way the the

1845
01:20:19,949 --> 01:20:18,369
laser was invented this is the way the

1846
01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:19,959
hologram is indented you go through all

1847
01:20:23,279 --> 01:20:21,280
the problems you worked through it all

1848
01:20:25,679 --> 01:20:23,289
you figure you analyze it whatever and

1849
01:20:27,719 --> 01:20:25,689
then he says I write it down the

1850
01:20:29,039 --> 01:20:27,729
question I put it beside the bed and I

1851
01:20:30,599 --> 01:20:29,049
wake up in the morning and I have the

1852
01:20:32,699 --> 01:20:30,609
answer in my head that's a guy a

1853
01:20:34,199 --> 01:20:32,709
genetics runs a genetics lab at Stanford

1854
01:20:36,449 --> 01:20:34,209
University if you take a Whitley

1855
01:20:38,549 --> 01:20:36,459
Strieber Whitley Strieber says I do this

1856
01:20:39,989 --> 01:20:38,559
sensing exercise okati gushes in through

1857
01:20:41,729 --> 01:20:39,999
his mind finger finger finger finger

1858
01:20:43,770 --> 01:20:41,739
finger toe toe toe and he goes around

1859
01:20:46,770 --> 01:20:43,780
for and yes it twice a day for half an

1860
01:20:48,419 --> 01:20:46,780
hour each time and he can tap in and he

1861
01:20:50,099 --> 01:20:48,429
picks it up if you take a look at this

1862
01:20:52,199 --> 01:20:50,109
Tyler D guy who I've met a couple of

1863
01:20:55,169 --> 01:20:52,209
times it's Tyler the guy from from

1864
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:55,179
American cosmic when I met him I've met

1865
01:21:00,089 --> 01:20:57,010
him with Chris Bledsoe in a meeting at a

1866
01:21:01,889 --> 01:21:00,099
cottage in in Pennsylvania he told me

1867
01:21:03,569 --> 01:21:01,899
the story about this dis invention that

1868
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:03,579
he got that came into his head if he

1869
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:05,409
read the book American cosmic they

1870
01:21:08,099 --> 01:21:06,639
talked about he gets brought to the

1871
01:21:10,020 --> 01:21:08,109
Pentagon and the the one-star general

1872
01:21:12,839 --> 01:21:10,030
yells out who came out with this idea

1873
01:21:15,149 --> 01:21:12,849
and they all point at Tyler D and he's

1874
01:21:16,259 --> 01:21:15,159
he's figures like he's in lots of

1875
01:21:17,969 --> 01:21:16,269
trouble but he came up with this

1876
01:21:20,189 --> 01:21:17,979
invention and because I was in the

1877
01:21:23,099 --> 01:21:20,199
download thing there you go yeah when I

1878
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:23,109
was in when I was in the the the da I

1879
01:21:26,879 --> 01:21:24,639
had my own download so I said I was very

1880
01:21:28,139 --> 01:21:26,889
interested so I said well you know how

1881
01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:28,149
did this happen he said I can tell you

1882
01:21:33,149 --> 01:21:31,030
what grant all I remember the night

1883
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:33,159
before I woke up with that idea in my

1884
01:21:36,059 --> 01:21:34,449
head in the morning the last thing I

1885
01:21:37,529 --> 01:21:36,069
remember the night before was a hooded

1886
01:21:39,509 --> 01:21:37,539
figure standing at the end of the bed I

1887
01:21:40,889 --> 01:21:39,519
said a hooded figure and I said could

1888
01:21:42,809 --> 01:21:40,899
you see its face he said no I couldn't

1889
01:21:43,979 --> 01:21:42,819
see his face and that's nobody can see

1890
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:43,989
the face in the hooded figure and that's

1891
01:21:47,849 --> 01:21:46,239
the wisdom being so then I said well you

1892
01:21:50,189 --> 01:21:47,859
go to LA all the time he works with kids

1893
01:21:52,079 --> 01:21:50,199
in operating rooms he works on his all

1894
01:21:53,909 --> 01:21:52,089
medical stuff and I said well you should

1895
01:21:55,139 --> 01:21:53,919
go to von Smith you should go to and we

1896
01:21:56,399 --> 01:21:55,149
actually had it arranged I had a von

1897
01:21:58,439 --> 01:21:56,409
Smith she knew who he was

1898
01:21:59,939 --> 01:21:58,449
I said go Yvonne Smith will regress you

1899
01:22:02,790 --> 01:21:59,949
and you can find out what the being said

1900
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:02,800
now what he says is his modality is

1901
01:22:08,340 --> 01:22:05,410
he says I sleep eight hours I get up

1902
01:22:10,590 --> 01:22:08,350
then I go to bed back to bed for an hour

1903
01:22:12,180 --> 01:22:10,600
then I get up and I get a glass of water

1904
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:12,190
and I go ahead and sit out in the Sun

1905
01:22:16,110 --> 01:22:13,930
and I start drink this big glass of

1906
01:22:17,670 --> 01:22:16,120
water in the Sun and they start talking

1907
01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:17,680
to me and that's the thing so they see

1908
01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:18,940
different modalities people are figuring

1909
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:21,340
out how to tap in and and Whitley

1910
01:22:24,210 --> 01:22:23,170
Strieber is like he says I never drink I

1911
01:22:26,220 --> 01:22:24,220
never drink coffee and never drink

1912
01:22:27,930 --> 01:22:26,230
alcohol whereas Whitley Strieber says oh

1913
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:27,940
yeah I drink alcohol and only sleep four

1914
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:29,770
hours a day so it's totally different

1915
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:31,810
modalities but what I almost like Bashar

1916
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:33,910
says they're there their permission

1917
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:35,530
slips whatever works for you

1918
01:22:39,660 --> 01:22:38,050
run it just do it and and that's so I

1919
01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:39,670
look at people and the same there when

1920
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:41,110
they look at Chris muscle that's why he

1921
01:22:45,690 --> 01:22:44,170
has like the president and the CIA and

1922
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:45,700
everybody's coming to him because he's

1923
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:47,110
got some sort of modality and they're

1924
01:22:50,250 --> 01:22:48,250
trying to figure out because the

1925
01:22:52,350 --> 01:22:50,260
government isn't talking to the beings

1926
01:22:54,060 --> 01:22:52,360
and so because they cannot talk to the

1927
01:22:55,950 --> 01:22:54,070
intelligence they have to talk to the

1928
01:22:57,900 --> 01:22:55,960
people who the intelligence is talking

1929
01:22:59,280 --> 01:22:57,910
to and that makes sense or even I

1930
01:23:00,720 --> 01:22:59,290
remember Bedi Andreas and they were

1931
01:23:02,130 --> 01:23:00,730
complaining her husband was complaining

1932
01:23:03,630 --> 01:23:02,140
to me about the fact that they had these

1933
01:23:05,190 --> 01:23:03,640
low-flying helicopters around the house

1934
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:05,200
and they were tapping his computer and

1935
01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:07,510
stuff and I said did Betty ever get the

1936
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:09,670
drawings from the craft oh yeah I says

1937
01:23:12,780 --> 01:23:11,290
they she drew all that how the crap

1938
01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:12,790
flies and stuff and I said why are you

1939
01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:14,560
surprised that they're watching you come

1940
01:23:17,610 --> 01:23:16,000
on of course they're gonna watch you

1941
01:23:19,740 --> 01:23:17,620
because you're tapped in they're trying

1942
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:19,750
to figure out how do you who are you

1943
01:23:22,290 --> 01:23:21,130
talking to and that's the whole thing

1944
01:23:23,940 --> 01:23:22,300
behind the mill herbs if you talk to

1945
01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:23,950
Melinda Leslie they bring you on and

1946
01:23:26,820 --> 01:23:25,510
they say who are you talking to what are

1947
01:23:28,530 --> 01:23:26,830
they telling you and they're trying to

1948
01:23:30,750 --> 01:23:28,540
figure it out because the the beings are

1949
01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:30,760
not talking to the government now there

1950
01:23:36,780 --> 01:23:33,310
is a there's another part to this you

1951
01:23:39,180 --> 01:23:36,790
mention this earlier and I've I've

1952
01:23:42,810 --> 01:23:39,190
noticed this because it's happened to me

1953
01:23:46,290 --> 01:23:42,820
hundreds of times where I will take out

1954
01:23:49,770 --> 01:23:46,300
my night vision right and I'll look up

1955
01:23:53,070 --> 01:23:49,780
at the sky at a specific up the whole

1956
01:23:56,250 --> 01:23:53,080
sky up here right I can go anywhere with

1957
01:23:58,230 --> 01:23:56,260
the night vision grant and I will go up

1958
01:24:00,570 --> 01:23:58,240
and go to and see something at that

1959
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:00,580
moment well you know I'm not looking

1960
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:03,250
over here where there's nothing I'll be

1961
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:06,250
drawn to a spot in the sky and see

1962
01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:09,250
something at that instant that tells me

1963
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:11,440
and I don't know what it is I don't know

1964
01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:15,110
how I'm tapping in but I am

1965
01:24:20,380 --> 01:24:17,840
moving to that section of the sky and

1966
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:20,390
seeing something at that moment the

1967
01:24:24,850 --> 01:24:22,610
thing is is that people will report this

1968
01:24:26,770 --> 01:24:24,860
especially the or people I'll say - are

1969
01:24:28,810 --> 01:24:26,780
you filming the orb you see it they say

1970
01:24:30,940 --> 01:24:28,820
no I just know where to shoot a nice

1971
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:30,950
thing appears on the on the camera and I

1972
01:24:37,180 --> 01:24:33,650
have a I have a business guy big-time

1973
01:24:39,550 --> 01:24:37,190
business guy here in Winnipeg and he had

1974
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:39,560
two sightings one was in a lake where

1975
01:24:42,970 --> 01:24:41,330
he's watching a movie and it's sort of

1976
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:42,980
like a UFO he's not really into UFOs but

1977
01:24:45,820 --> 01:24:44,480
it's a UFO one ten minutes before the

1978
01:24:48,820 --> 01:24:45,830
end the movie he suddenly gets the idea

1979
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:48,830
I should go out and sky watch and like

1980
01:24:52,030 --> 01:24:49,970
it's gonna miss the end of the Rubies

1981
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:52,040
say he gets up and he says and should

1982
01:24:56,740 --> 01:24:55,250
take your laser laser and he says

1983
01:24:58,330 --> 01:24:56,750
something goes flying by it's like fifty

1984
01:25:00,910 --> 01:24:58,340
feet away and he hits it with a laser

1985
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:00,920
and it's just blown away and then he's

1986
01:25:04,990 --> 01:25:03,290
back home again and and later on as

1987
01:25:06,460 --> 01:25:05,000
maybe a year later he has another one he

1988
01:25:08,410 --> 01:25:06,470
lives on the river Saints coming down

1989
01:25:09,790 --> 01:25:08,420
the river and he sees that he's calling

1990
01:25:11,170 --> 01:25:09,800
so I get out here get out here and she

1991
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:11,180
comes out she's looking at the thing and

1992
01:25:15,580 --> 01:25:13,370
then later he's in a party or something

1993
01:25:17,290 --> 01:25:15,590
and he says I I saw this it was a orange

1994
01:25:18,790 --> 01:25:17,300
ball it was all like he was on fire like

1995
01:25:20,860 --> 01:25:18,800
it was on oil and stuff it was on fire

1996
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:20,870
and she says that's not what it was he

1997
01:25:24,820 --> 01:25:22,370
said yeah I sort of was he says no it

1998
01:25:26,950 --> 01:25:24,830
was a silver craft he said was yeah I

1999
01:25:28,540 --> 01:25:26,960
was a silver craft and then he so he's

2000
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:28,550
got some money so he he goes after

2001
01:25:32,380 --> 01:25:30,170
psychics and people like that high-level

2002
01:25:34,780 --> 01:25:32,390
psychics a guy what one girl who worked

2003
01:25:36,490 --> 01:25:34,790
for a guy who's to run the Air Force

2004
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:36,500
remote viewing program she works she

2005
01:25:41,020 --> 01:25:38,210
does work with him it's not government

2006
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:41,030
work but he hires her and he says and

2007
01:25:45,850 --> 01:25:42,560
he's asking all those questions then he

2008
01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:45,860
says okay so I had these two UFO

2009
01:25:50,170 --> 01:25:48,080
sightings he says so we're ready from

2010
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:50,180
and she goes hey where the earth drum

2011
01:25:53,830 --> 01:25:52,250
they weren't from anywhere he said well

2012
01:25:56,230 --> 01:25:53,840
yeah I saw them he's described this no

2013
01:25:58,360 --> 01:25:56,240
no you sent them you sent them to

2014
01:25:59,740 --> 01:25:58,370
yourself to wake yourself up and that's

2015
01:26:01,840 --> 01:25:59,750
the whole thing where you start looking

2016
01:26:04,180 --> 01:26:01,850
at this loop above are you the person

2017
01:26:05,950 --> 01:26:04,190
that's behind the actual experience is

2018
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:05,960
there actually an out there out there or

2019
01:26:10,780 --> 01:26:08,330
are we manifesting this whole thing like

2020
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:10,790
the whole idea of the you know the the

2021
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:13,010
the world where it's all there's a big

2022
01:26:17,260 --> 01:26:15,410
giant computer game and we may be the

2023
01:26:20,020 --> 01:26:17,270
ones that are actually manifesting this

2024
01:26:22,270 --> 01:26:20,030
thing and we think it's an outside force

2025
01:26:25,420 --> 01:26:22,280
and we have morons and in fact you see

2026
01:26:27,190 --> 01:26:25,430
this thing with experiencers where you

2027
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:27,200
go into the you go into the thing where

2028
01:26:30,370 --> 01:26:28,970
there's a near-death experience or the

2029
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:30,380
duction experience everybody is

2030
01:26:34,300 --> 01:26:32,210
describing something different and the

2031
01:26:36,220 --> 01:26:34,310
ID the concept comes down to it if you

2032
01:26:37,930 --> 01:26:36,230
are fearful you're gonna have a fearful

2033
01:26:39,220 --> 01:26:37,940
experience you're gonna see Gray's but

2034
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:39,230
if you have these people who are like

2035
01:26:43,060 --> 01:26:40,850
love and light people they're gonna see

2036
01:26:44,890 --> 01:26:43,070
these these beings who are like light

2037
01:26:46,540 --> 01:26:44,900
beings and stuff like this and your

2038
01:26:48,430 --> 01:26:46,550
message gonna be different and it's it's

2039
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,440
the idea because one of the modalities I

2040
01:26:52,330 --> 01:26:50,480
do is psyched in psychedelics so I do

2041
01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:52,340
the John Hopkins psilocybin thing and

2042
01:26:55,210 --> 01:26:53,450
that's what they tell you the same thing

2043
01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:55,220
as at Stanford University they do the

2044
01:26:59,500 --> 01:26:56,960
remote viewing thing so when you're in

2045
01:27:01,930 --> 01:26:59,510
this very plastic world right wait wait

2046
01:27:05,490 --> 01:27:01,940
wait wait wait slow down what did you

2047
01:27:09,340 --> 01:27:05,500
just say you do the psilocybin thing

2048
01:27:17,950 --> 01:27:09,350
that done research on suicide no I oh

2049
01:27:19,810 --> 01:27:17,960
you are not doing no so okay so they do

2050
01:27:22,150 --> 01:27:19,820
the thing and what they what it is is

2051
01:27:25,180 --> 01:27:22,160
when you are in this world when you are

2052
01:27:27,940 --> 01:27:25,190
in the UFO experience abduction whatever

2053
01:27:29,650 --> 01:27:27,950
it is it's very very plastic it's very

2054
01:27:31,180 --> 01:27:29,660
easy the things are many planned they

2055
01:27:33,250 --> 01:27:31,190
know how to manipulate things things

2056
01:27:34,660 --> 01:27:33,260
aren't as solid as you think they are so

2057
01:27:36,610 --> 01:27:34,670
what they what they do in the psilocybin

2058
01:27:38,620 --> 01:27:36,620
or whether it's the lucid dream research

2059
01:27:40,330 --> 01:27:38,630
that was done at Stanford University is

2060
01:27:42,370 --> 01:27:40,340
when you're in the experience you can

2061
01:27:44,050 --> 01:27:42,380
change things in the experience so what

2062
01:27:45,550 --> 01:27:44,060
they what they do in John Hopkins is

2063
01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:45,560
they they try to stop you from having

2064
01:27:49,300 --> 01:27:47,450
the fearful experience so once you start

2065
01:27:50,770 --> 01:27:49,310
getting scared they have two people in

2066
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:50,780
the room who grab your hand and say it's

2067
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:53,690
okay go towards the being whatever the

2068
01:27:57,820 --> 01:27:55,370
being is go towards it give it

2069
01:27:59,290 --> 01:27:57,830
unconditional love and it will turn into

2070
01:28:00,910 --> 01:27:59,300
a positive being and you hear this over

2071
01:28:02,110 --> 01:28:00,920
and over again it turns into a positive

2072
01:28:04,450 --> 01:28:02,120
being and that's what we think it's a

2073
01:28:06,070 --> 01:28:04,460
very solid world everything's solid and

2074
01:28:08,020 --> 01:28:06,080
the more you learn about quantum physics

2075
01:28:09,850 --> 01:28:08,030
you start to realize it's not solid

2076
01:28:12,250 --> 01:28:09,860
there are no colors there's probably no

2077
01:28:14,710 --> 01:28:12,260
time in space it's very very plastic and

2078
01:28:16,060 --> 01:28:14,720
we're just in this world where our left

2079
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:16,070
brain is making us think that

2080
01:28:19,330 --> 01:28:17,810
everything's solid and when you get into

2081
01:28:21,190 --> 01:28:19,340
that world you start to realize like oh

2082
01:28:22,780 --> 01:28:21,200
it's not the world I thought it was and

2083
01:28:24,730 --> 01:28:22,790
they are just able to do it they know

2084
01:28:26,170 --> 01:28:24,740
things they're not magical they can they

2085
01:28:31,690 --> 01:28:26,180
just know how the universe actually

2086
01:28:33,850 --> 01:28:31,700
works adstar works in November grant

2087
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:33,860
you're gonna be there we're gonna do two

2088
01:28:40,010 --> 01:28:37,610
nights of sky watching so you've got to

2089
01:28:43,340 --> 01:28:40,020
come out with this

2090
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:43,350
now it requires comedy humor and

2091
01:28:47,210 --> 01:28:45,090
pastrami sandwiches and night-vision

2092
01:28:48,110 --> 01:28:47,220
goggles are you down for you want to

2093
01:28:50,270 --> 01:28:48,120
come hang out with us

2094
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:50,280
I'm down for ya that will help we'll

2095
01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:51,810
have some good times all right sometimes

2096
01:28:54,890 --> 01:28:53,310
I get frustrated with sky watches

2097
01:28:56,150 --> 01:28:54,900
because people are sorta arguing about

2098
01:28:58,490 --> 01:28:56,160
some light in the sky whatever and I

2099
01:29:00,320 --> 01:28:58,500
always say man if you saw what I saw in

2100
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:00,330
1975 you'd be going to bed just like me

2101
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:03,930
and I turned I was I didn't see a light

2102
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:06,210
in the sky in 1975 it was pretty close I

2103
01:29:09,260 --> 01:29:07,530
mean there was no ifs ands or buts about

2104
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:09,270
what I was looking at yeah let's take

2105
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:10,770
our break right here our guest tonight

2106
01:29:14,900 --> 01:29:13,050
grant Cameron this is fade to black I'm

2107
01:29:17,330 --> 01:29:14,910
your Jimmy Church another great

2108
01:29:20,420 --> 01:29:17,340
conversation with Mr Cameron on the game

2109
01:29:23,900 --> 01:29:20,430
changer network and kgr a the planet

2110
01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:23,910
humor laughter pastrami sandwiches grant

2111
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:46,210
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

2112
01:29:51,740 --> 01:29:49,250
you're listening to faint and black

2113
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always on the edge of the hottest

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2115
01:30:12,830 --> 01:29:55,080
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2116
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stay GRA radio.com do you want to be an

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2118
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a comment here it's always a grant is

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get four hours worth of conversation two

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of jump around a little bit but I want

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to I want to pick your brain

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the the Holloman Air Force Base film

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yeah we know that the government is

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sitting on lots of stuff like that

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Holloman is something that we we know

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about pretty directly you know from Bob

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AB and Egger but do you think the

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Holloman look the three videos that are

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out there now whatever you see in those

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videos is up to you as an individual I

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don't necessarily see anything et but I

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don't think that's the point the

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Pentagon did officially release them

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like two or three times now but that's

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not the good stuff all right the good

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stuff is like Holliman are we ever going

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to get to see those films it's gonna be

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a while because they did and that's

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always talked about how they do this I

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mean they don't give they always have

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plausible deniability whether it's the

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Nimitz film or the Hallman film they

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sort of put it there and then they pull

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it back so with the Holland film and

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this is one of the things if you look at

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these two dark documents that that we

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alien autopsy document both these were

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reports to Bob Bigelow that's what the

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work Bob Bigelow had a lot of money he

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was bringing in all these tough guys the

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he was working on oh and one of the